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mumzie

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Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« on: March 31, 2005, 05:28:28 AM »
I am not familiar with the rules any more.
If a high school junior or senior is bowling in an adult league,
is he eligible to play high school baseball?
Or has he given up his eligibility?

I don't have any idea what the answer is any more.
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KDawg77

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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2005, 01:34:06 PM »
I've never heard of that problem EVER. I do know that it only affects the sport in question.
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bowlitup

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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2005, 01:45:42 PM »
I have never heard of that either.

I do have a similar question though...
I am 17 yrs old and this year I switched to ABC/USBC. I read the ABC rulebook and it said that in order to receive money in an ABC competition, a certain form must be filled out by the parents of any high school student. This is clear, however my situation is slightly different. I am not a high school student anymore. I have met all of my graduation requirements and I am scheduled to receive my diploma with my class in may. I have withdrawn from school, and I have not attended since december.

Am I eligible to receive team prize money without the form? I feel it is too late to submit the form anyhow. (I am not eligible to receive individual prize money because I joined the league late and have not bowled more than half of my teams games since the beginning of the league, that rule goes for everyone.)

BTW I don't bowl for the money, i'm just curious.
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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2005, 01:51:14 PM »
Rule 13. Unmarried grade and high school students under the age of 18 must have written consent of a parent or guardian before participating in any WIBC/ABC league or tournament where merchandise valued over $50, or any cash and/or bonds are offered.

Such consent must be on file with the league or tournament secretary at least one week before participation, unless the student is accompanied by a parent or guardian. In that case, the consent form may be filed prior to the start of bowling. Failure to file the consent form will cause the player to be ineligible and subject games bowled to forfeiture or disqualification.

I doesn't appear that being in high school is part of the equation only age.
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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2005, 01:53:36 PM »
If you participate in any gambling whatsoever you are considered inneligible here in michigan. Different states have different rules, however. They consider taking any prize money as enough reason to make you inneligible to play any sport.
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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2005, 01:58:35 PM »
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Rule 13. Unmarried grade and high school students under the age of 18...

I think whether or not one is in school makes all the difference as the rule is written currently.

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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2005, 02:01:17 PM »
There are a lot of little things involved.  The best way to check is to find someone versed on the local rules.  As for ABC/USBC here even if you sub in an adult league that pays money whether you receive it or not you are now ineligible  for high school play in Texas.  As for other sports you would need to check with the school district.  They should have an athletic director on staff that will be able to tell you UIL and NCAA rules for all sports and there should be a rule book for your state available

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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2005, 02:03:29 PM »
I bowled in the PSAL league for New York State. A few years ago a few of my classmates had the same problem. Heres what the ruling is from the PSAL website:


AMATEUR STATUS

A student who represents a school in an interscholastic sport shall be an amateur in that sport. An amateur is one who engages in athletic competition solely for the physical, mental and social benefits derived therefrom. A student shall forfeit amateur status by:

i) Competing for money or other compensation. Allowable travel, meals and lodging expenses may be approved.

ii) Receiving an award or prize of monetary value as a result of participation in an event that has not been sanctioned by the New York State Public High Schools Athletic Association.

iii) Capitalizing on athletic fame by receiving gifts of monetary value. Scholarships to institutes of higher learning are specifically exempted.

iv) Signing a professional playing contract in a sport.

So according to this if he's in a sanctioned league that offers prize money, he is ineligible.
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DanH78

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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2005, 02:04:13 PM »
What Stanski said also applies in IL.  Once you bowl in a league for money, you are not eligible to bowl YABA or High School.  The Illinois High School Sports Association even goes to far as to say you cannot receive any award valued over $25.  So if you are a YABA bowler, that also bowls for high school, you can  not recieve the YABA 300 ring because that ring is valued at $49.  

As for rule 13, I wouldn't worry about that much.  Most secretaries aren't even aware of it, and if they are, most will let you turn in the consent form at any time.  

Ok, now that I've read the first post a little closer, I see he is asking about baseball, not bowling.  I would think that bowling an adult league COULD make you ineligible, but someone would have to protest.
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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2005, 02:08:01 PM »
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Ok, now that I've read the first post a little closer, I see he is asking about baseball, not bowling.  I would think that bowling an adult league COULD make you ineligible, but someone would have to protest.
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Thats the key, I know many kids who have pot bowled for large sums of money, but no one ever protested it to the other sports they were playing.
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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2005, 02:10:07 PM »
My bad on the high school, reading too fast.

Each state has different eligibilty rules and they change all the time.
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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2005, 02:11:49 PM »
I would recommend either you or the student to talk to his athletic director or whoever is in charge of eligibility of the sport and find out if he's eligible.
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bowlitup

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Re: Question about eligibility for high school adult bowlers
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2005, 02:11:51 PM »
No prob. pinbuster. It happens.
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