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bowlingmytmouse

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Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« on: February 17, 2004, 09:09:31 PM »
What do I do about these Darned wood lanes.  I suck on them. I don't know what  it is.  I can't do anything on wood lanes and the bad thing is that is where almost all of our tournaments are on wood, I bowl in college. Maybe its my ability to adjust, but in warm-up I can throw 3-4 strikes flush in the pocket and by the 5th frame my ball is hooking over the head pin.  I started last tourney with my Hot wire and I am thinking that it is drying the lanes too early so next tourney I think that I am gonna start off with something pearl, either my B/G Ti Messenger or my Hot Rod.  Do any of you have any problems with wood lanes? If so what do you do about it?

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2004, 12:19:20 PM »
I grew up on wood lanes, so I never really had a problem with them.  However, they are a different creature than the synthetics.  Not only will oil get carried down (like all lanes) it can also be ABSORBED if the lane is in bad need of resurfacing.  Basically, there will be cracks in the urethane coating that allows the oil to seep down into them and get absorbed into the wood.  Usually this happens in the heads and will create a hook-slide-hook reaction on the lane.  Maybe try something that will get longer down the lane to combat this - I am guessing the front part of the lane is drying out faster than you're used to and causing the ball to hook sooner on the lane.  I don't ever recall the backends seeming to hook harder on a wood surface without the front part of the lane breaking down first.  Good Luck!

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2004, 11:55:50 PM »
I bowl on wood lanes in the two houses that I frequent the most during the winter leagues. One house really keeps up on lane maintenance, has the latest oiling/stripping machine, and also has the high scores to show it. I find on this shot I can throw anything in my arsenal but have had my highest scores with my particle ball and my reactive resin. The other house lays out a short oil pattern with old oiling equipment, and what you described about over/under conditions past the heads happens quickly in this house. Lately I've been bowling better with a polished pearl resin as I find my other equipment has nothing left for the back end on this condition.

Good luck in your quest for higher scores on wood lanes, they can happen...

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2004, 08:03:19 AM »
The type of condition being discussed here is what I do most of my bowling on.  It sure gives me an appreciation for synthetics on the occasions I get to bowl on synthetics.

I think BrianN's post about how to handle the condition is excellent.  With minor variations, what he says is just about what I have found to work--work being a relative term.

I have a comment about the lanes breaking down into a tube.  This is just what happens, and it results in what appears to be an out-of-bounds in the breakpoint area.  I have found that to mean that a slight miss of your mark to the right (for a right-hander) can result in hitting that OB, leaving you in wash-out town.  If you miss several boards right, you might hit the outside part of the lane earlier where it's dry and bounce back into the pocket.  It creates an interesting situation where it's better to miss your mark by a lot than to be close.  Generally, misses to the left are to be preferred to misses to the right, because the oil line will hold you on course--unless of course you miss by a lot.  To recap, it's better to miss to the right by a lot rather than a little; and it's better to miss to the left by a little rather than a lot.  I have found wash-outs to be a bigger problem on these kinds of lanes than splits.

I have found that for me, surfaces in the 1500-2500 range tend to work best.  I use the stuff in the 1500 area in the effort BrianN mentioned to just throw over the top of what's out there, and the shinier stuff later when it's just too burned up to throw over the top of what's out there unless you have a good foot and timing regimen for standing in front of the ball return.

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bowlingmytmouse

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2004, 03:28:29 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions guys,
  I think that I am gonna break out the old XS and see what it does for me.  I also have a Urethane Ebonite Avenger that I think I am gonna try.  Its weird because a friend of mine was making fun of one of his boys because in his arsenal the guy said that he had a wood lane ball.  But I guess it makes sense, the older stuff was meant for that stuff, as a matter of fact I got an old Cuda/C that I think I might break out next tourney.  Thanks everyone.

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2004, 04:35:13 PM »
I also bowl on these types of conditions weekly.  Wood lanes in bad need of a resurface and a fairly light pattern to start with.  It definitely breaks down into a tube shot very quickly.  As da Shiv was saying, my biggest problem is that minor misses right too often result in washouts and even worse combinations of the 2,4,8,10.  I've never left so many of these in my life as I have the last few months.

For me, the best shot always ends up being fairly deep (between 4th and 5th arrow) with a mild pearl reactive or polished urethane.  More surface will not get thru the drying heads.  The key for me is to control the breakpoint.  Getting it far enough down the lane without getting the ball too far right into the OB.

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2004, 10:06:13 PM »
Seems strange to me to hear someone struggle on wood, and think synthetics are easier. Having grown up on wood lanes, that at times were not well maintained and other times maintained very well. I have always been able to adjust quicker on wood. I am guessing one of the keys may be ball speed. I had always had fairly high ball speed and maybe the wood lanes is why. This tendency to over power lanes too often resulted in missing the breakpoint on synthetics. In recent years I have worked on being able to control ball speed better and began to improve on synthetics.
 Maybe that is one tip I would provide for dealing with wood. You may need to generate more speed, not knowing your game I have to make at some assumptions. If you look at your arsenal, make sure also that you have a variety of drillings to go along with ball surface. If you happen to be like I used to be, all of your equipment may be drilled close to the same. Add some really long pins into the mix if not there now. Have maybe a couple with one from a weaker core and one stronger. Variety can make things confusing at times, but may provide a stronger option than old urethane or plastic. The new oils, while dry to a reactive or proactive drilled strong, may result in a straight ball with the old stuff. I pulled out my old Pirahnna last summer for kicks, a ball I used to hook the house with, and on burned up modern oils I did good to get 10 boards. Could be a good thing, but it was real easy to leave 5 pins. Now to finish the tale, the second game I bowled that day (practicing) was a 300, so never hurts to pull the old ball out, just don't assume it will work like it did in the old days.

 I think one of the best bits of advice, is don't walk in thinking you are going to bowl bad because the lanes are wood. Too much of this game is mental.

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2004, 10:18:09 PM »
Tex makes a good point that I forgot to mention.  The better bowlers in the tough wood house that I bowl in tend to have pretty good ball speed.  The rapid breakdown of the lanes affects them less dramatically than it does slower bowlers.  I have let my ball speed slip in the last couple years, and I've been working on getting it back up and it is making a noticeable improvement in my scores.  I was using weaker, shinier equipment and doing okay, but with more ball speed I can use stronger, duller equipment with more mid lane read; and it's working out better.

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2004, 10:36:52 PM »
i was reading this and i think i will be able to take a lot out of it because i too struggle on wood...but i just have one question that may sound stupid, but oh well.  what is a tube shot?
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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2004, 08:19:56 AM »
A tube shot is where there is oil on the inside and oil on the outside and a dry track in between.

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Re: Wood Lanes.....My nemesis
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2004, 01:47:26 PM »
After reading these responses it might just be my ball speed thats holding me back.  I've never been one to throw the ball hard, I throw around 13 MPH and when I speed the ball up I miss my mark...Da Shiv, I don't think that 2 of my balls have the same drill, but I am always scared to just do something "blindly"  I am always scared that its just gonna suck and I will have just wasted my money, I'm the same way about buying balls without throwing one. I dunno, just something that I guess I will have to get over.  I'm not that knoledgeble on drillings either so it makes me skeptical.  I am getting some of my old equipment's thumb redrilled to my current pitches so I can get out of the ball to add more "variety" to my arsenal.

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