Author Topic: I've about had my fill of dry lanes... (Read 3056 times)

JessN16 · « **on:** April 07, 2009, 02:51:51 PM »

I'm not trying to b***h or make excuses -- heck, I beat my average by 52 pins tonight -- but lately all I see in league is dry, dry, dry.

One of the reasons a recent tournament was so fun for me was that I actually had to deal with a pattern and breakdown. We don't get breakdown much in league. We get dry, and then we get blown-out-grab-a-ball-made-in-1991-hope-it-works dry.

Seriously, I finished tonight with an AMF Pro XS II, standing against the ball return. And it was hooking too much.

Does anyone out there see oil anymore?

Jess

michelle · « **Reply #16 on:** April 08, 2009, 09:38:50 AM »

Learning to adjust to such conditions is a skill lost on many of the 'yutes' of today...

Bowling is not always about crossing boards. Older equipment and a closed release can work wonders.

It ain't the arrow...it is how the indian uses the arrow.

Oh, and the equipment from the 80's does just fine in such situations...some of us still have that as our regular grab-a-tote-from-the-truck arsenal. The last time I bowled league, my strong ball was the Gold Grenade.

rvmark · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2009, 10:11:53 AM »

Jess,

Have been seeing the same issue at the house I bowl league in. Through the middle part of the league season the pattern was either 38-40' long with oil to be found outside of the 10 board on the right side. Now we have a 34-36' pattern with little oil found outside of the 10 board on the right side, ironically a couple of leftys have been commenting that they do not dare go outside of the their 7 board or the ball does not come back. The thing it has done for me has forced me to change surfaces, add polish or sometimes revert to throwing plastic. On the brighter side I have shot well in the tournaments that I have bowled in the past month, due to having carry issues at times I have become a much better spare shooter. Given the choice I would still like to see a little more oil in league, but they haven't asked me.

Mark

bowlerdawg · « **Reply #18 on:** April 08, 2009, 10:27:30 AM »

i agree jess
all these hooka monster balls, but i can't even look at them
i will have one strong ball in my line up and thats only going to be for tourneys

for day to day i had to go much weaker and i got a liberator and a chainsaw

i dont even know why i bring my microfiber towel to the lanes w/ me
i pick up my ball and no oil rings

getting old all this dry
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Crankenstein300 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 08, 2009, 11:31:29 AM »

Playing devils advocate here, but is it a prerequisite to be using reactive, even an older model? It sounds like a urethane ball could be the ticket for these type of shots.

Personally I have never run into a shot so dry (without there being an oiling mistake) that you couldn't keep plastic off the nose.

JessN16 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2009, 12:06:09 PM »

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Jess,

From what you have told us, you have said that injuries have prevented you from throwing the ball quicker to better get the length on the lanes.

A good coach can teach you how to generate ball speed more efficiently without throwing it harder. Perhaps if you addressed a second tier of timing to enable you to change from rev dominant to speed dominant, you would be able to address this issue?

A lower level of bowler (llob) will look at dry lanes from a negative view, and oily lanes from a negative view.

A higher level of bowler (hlob) will look at the glass half full on any conditions, and try to take advantage of each patterns strengths, rather than focus on it's weaknesses.

eg:
llob- The lanes are dry tonight, I have to stand too far left. I'm going to struggle.
hlob- The lanes are dry tonight, I can up my ball speed and not blow through the breakpoint. I'm going to kill it tonight!

llob- The lanes are oily tonight, I have to slow down my speed for any hook. I'm going to struggle.
hlob- The lanes are oily tonight, I can really save the balls energy for the pins without working too hard. I'm going to kill it tonight!

llob- The scores are low, I'm terrible in a grind out.
hlob- The scores are low, I can focus on making the pocket and staying clean and still win.

Sometimes the only change we need to make, is a change of viewpoint.

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Edited on 4/8/2009 8:27 AM

This wasn't so much a b***hfest on my part as it was a conversation starter about people/pro shops gravitating to heavy oil equipment when, IMO, it's not necessary. I can't very well complain if I'm shooting plus, anyway.

Things are starting to get better on the wrist/injury front. I haven't said much about it lately because I don't want to jinx myself. (g) I started using a forearm band (a Robby's Band-it XM) and, of all things, one of those magnetic bracelets (although it may not be the magnets, but rather the pressure around the wrist itself, as I took links out to make it small) covered by a Nike sweatband. I haven't hurt in a long time.

I've got a link/blog in the Lane #1 forum about bowling in my state tournament last week, and (figjam alert) managed to shoot 255 on the most broken-down, nasty shot I've seen in awhile in our final game of team. I looked like Robert Smith. (g) I was almost over the gutter cap with high speed and revs, playing with a fairly mild ball.

If I can continue to build on that, I'll be fine, I think.

In general, I do take a glass-half-full approach to lane conditions. The harder they are -- within reason -- the better chance I seem to have against a field of bowlers of similar ability. Liking a challenge and staying positive does go a long way.

I would, however, once in awhile like to bowl league on something other than a desert, just for variety's sake.

Jess

JessN16 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2009, 12:16:46 PM »

quote:
Playing devils advocate here, but is it a prerequisite to be using reactive, even an older model? It sounds like a urethane ball could be the ticket for these type of shots.

Personally I have never run into a shot so dry (without there being an oiling mistake) that you couldn't keep plastic off the nose.

I've finished with plastic (Lane #1 XXXL Starburst) or pearl urethane (Visionary Slate Blue Gargoyle) probably 10 times this year. On one of those occasions, I kid you not, I beaked the XXXL twice in the game.

Jess

LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 08, 2009, 12:38:45 PM »

quote:
Jess,

From what you have told us, you have said that injuries have prevented you from throwing the ball quicker to better get the length on the lanes.

A good coach can teach you how to generate ball speed more efficiently without throwing it harder. Perhaps if you addressed a second tier of timing to enable you to change from rev dominant to speed dominant, you would be able to address this issue?

A lower level of bowler (llob) will look at dry lanes from a negative view, and oily lanes from a negative view.

A higher level of bowler (hlob) will look at the glass half full on any conditions, and try to take advantage of each patterns strengths, rather than focus on it's weaknesses.

eg:
llob- The lanes are dry tonight, I have to stand too far left. I'm going to struggle.
hlob- The lanes are dry tonight, I can up my ball speed and not blow through the breakpoint. I'm going to kill it tonight!

llob- The lanes are oily tonight, I have to slow down my speed for any hook. I'm going to struggle.
hlob- The lanes are oily tonight, I can really save the balls energy for the pins without working too hard. I'm going to kill it tonight!

llob- The scores are low, I'm terrible in a grind out.
hlob- The scores are low, I can focus on making the pocket and staying clean and still win.

Sometimes the only change we need to make, is a change of viewpoint.

I like this, I try to do the same. But when you absolutely have the complete wrong ball as I did last night on the very badly burnt up lanes in game 3, speed could only help so muhc. haha
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sluggo35 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 08, 2009, 12:52:29 PM »

the only oil on my house lanes is the carry down

no300tj · « **Reply #24 on:** April 08, 2009, 01:01:24 PM »

If you could extract the oil from all 14 balls I have, put it all into any one ball, it still wouldn't be enough to cause ball death. I haven't rolled any of my stronger equipment all year. What's pattern breakdown?

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no300tj · « **Reply #25 on:** April 08, 2009, 01:01:25 PM »

If you could extract the oil from all 14 balls I have, put it all into any one ball, it still wouldn't be enough to cause ball death. I haven't rolled any of my stronger equipment all year. What's pattern breakdown?

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whoever said size doesn't matter never had trouble with a thumbhole

no300tj · « **Reply #26 on:** April 08, 2009, 01:01:27 PM »

If you could extract the oil from all 14 balls I have, put it all into any one ball, it still wouldn't be enough to cause ball death. I haven't rolled any of my stronger equipment all year. What's pattern breakdown?

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whoever said size doesn't matter never had trouble with a thumbhole

kcTwister · « **Reply #27 on:** April 09, 2009, 10:28:19 PM »

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Livin' in Bakersfield, CA...literally just finished bowling 5 games after league. Throwing a pin up completeNV standing 50, targeting 25, ball out to 13...10 bagger.

Then, on the lane where the ball return WASN'T in the way...

Throwing The One (which has about 1400 games on it...no exaggeration).
Standing one lane over (IE, if I'm bowling on 31, I'm standing on 30's approach), ball didn't hit the lane until it got to the arrows, crossing the arrows at about 30, ball out to 7, flying off the spot to the hole.

Delicious.

The only place I see oil is in the tournaments I bowl, which are about half heavy oil sport shots. And then people wonder why I can't bowl in tournaments...hrmm, cuz there's oil and no wall of china. If you retards would stop b****ing about the lanes being too hard every time it gets to 45 feet and doesn't look like it got kicked left, maybe I'd stand a chance when I go out of town.

People here in Bakersfield all have ridiculously inflated house shot averages, and they REFUSE to put out a sport shot other than for the 1 night a week league, so I'm stuck living on this house shot til I go off to college.

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What...did they forclose on the oil machine too???

Seriously...if they are that dry why on earth are you throwing a CompleteNV & a One? Feel free to mix in some urethane or weak reactive. I have bowled on some desert conditions through the years and have manged to pick up a collection of dry lane equip...plenty of stuff out there if drilled properly....you get the picture...

Author Topic: I've about had my fill of dry lanes... (Read 3056 times)

JessN16

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