I had both shoes in my hands at the same time, I don't know where anyone gets that the ultras are not as wide as the 8's. I put them sole to sole and they are like the same shoe.
Comfort level of the ultras is off the sheet compared to the 8's.
I bought a used pr to try and loved them.
I am ambidextrous so I bought a NIB pr off ebay for the lefty alter ego, for less than $80 SHIPPED. (dynothane) not the 3G. Same shoe just different names.
I will be purchasing within the next 3 weeks a NIB pr of the same shoe I bought lefty for my righty alter ego.
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FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!
Ten pin??? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck... Proud MEMBER of the FOS!!
Member of the FOS, if there happens to be a 9 pin standing just toss a saw and cut it down~~!