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BBock727

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Thumb issues. Please help!
« on: May 06, 2009, 06:36:55 AM »
I am currently 27 years old and have been bowling all my life.  Since highschool, I have avg'd between 195-210 consistently.  Over the course of the past 2 years, my avg has been dropping steadily from a 208, to 201, to 193 and then to 188.  

Before my skid, I had a decent sized arsenal, everything seemed to fit properly and I never really had thumb issues.  I then got my bowling balls stolen and had to start with fresh drills for the most part (for whatever reason, my proshop guy was missing my more recent drill charts and only had ones from 10 or so years back which were worthless in my opinion).  

Anyway, since I've gotten my new balls, Attitude Shift and Cell Pearl, I have been having major thumb issues.  I used to be able to throw 10 games in a row if I had to, now I'm lucky if I can get 1 game in without some serious thumb swelling.  I've been to the proshop numerous times to try to remedy this and I seem to keep making the hole a little bigger in spots and using tape in the ball.  (I use thumb slugs btw in both balls).  

Currently, I can notice my thumb already swelling by the time I am done with league practice.  I am at wits end over this, because it is seriously effecting my game, either physically and/or mentally.  I am constantly screwing around w/ at least 2 pieces of tape and by the end of the first game, I am applying powder to my thumb before each frame.  

I am a lefty bowler so the left side of my thumb is a little rough, I wouldn't even call it a callus. Likewise, if I apply pressure to the base of my thumb, where it reaches my palm, I find it to be a little sore, even a week after bowling.  I am wondering if my thumb pitch is off (not a clue what mine is set at).  Is there anyway I can measure this pitch with household measuring devices?  I do not work at a proshop and therefore I do not have any of the proshop measuring tools.

Please let me know what you guys think I should try.  It is extremely aggravating that my thumb getting stuck is causing me to ruin at least 5 shots a series where I am getting a less than adequate release.

 

rwchew4185

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 02:45:57 PM »
I would definitely keep talking to your proshop guy.  But I've found that if you're getting stuck in the ball, the VISE hada tape (red) has worked wonders for me.  I used to have a lot of thumb sticking problems, but the hada tape has worked well for me in terms of not getting stuck.

BBock727

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 02:49:20 PM »
thats the tape you put on your actual thumb?  If that is it, I have it but I wasn't a huge fan.  I'd always get glue crap on my finger nail when taking it off.

leftyinsnellville

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 02:52:01 PM »
Ron Clifton's Magic Carpet is the answer.  Keeps the thumbhole snug, but adjusts for swelling without any noticeable effect on your release.  Takes a few games to get used to it, but it's worth it.

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 03:00:35 PM »
I might suggest seeing another driller just to check measurements.  Another set of eyes cant hurt.

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 03:02:59 PM »
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I have been having major thumb issues. I used to be able to throw 10 games in a row if I had to, now I'm lucky if I can get 1 game in without some serious thumb swelling.  


It sounds like there is something seriously wrong with either your span and/or pitches. No amount of tape or Magic Carpet is going to fix what appears to be the fundamental issue -- a bad fit.

If all your driller is doing is opening up the hole to try to 'fix' things, you have the wrong guy. Time to seek out someone who knows what they're doing.

BBock727

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2009, 03:28:45 PM »
Yeah, I guess I am going to have to try to find another proshop guy to take a look at my spans/pitches as my thumb is already oval.  The guy really didn't use my 10 year old drill card, he did take a look at it, but it was pretty much just setting up a new drill card.  

I feel like the problem has been exasperated by the bad fit since I know I am gripping with my thumb and causing it to swell even more.  

I know my specific issue has a lot to do w/ my equipment, but is there a perfect thumbhole for everyone, or are some people going to have a certain amount of swelling regardless?

Stan

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2009, 03:36:08 PM »
What are your measurements ?  Span, finger and thumb pitches.  Also, what type of thumb slug do you use and finger inserts, ie vinyl thumb, oval finger inserts..

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2009, 03:50:27 PM »
Grab a can of pop.....do it naturally....see where your thumb lines up.....Try it a couple times..just to get the most natural feel.


Index finger = 1/8 lateral away from palm
Between Index and middle = 0
Middle = 1/8 lateral under palm
Between middle and ring = 1/4 lateral under palm
Ring = 3/8 lateral under palm

***This will give you left and right pitches....forward and reverse are decided on span and type of hand flexibility.....have you ever had and broken bones, or arthritis? Really a qualified pro shop operater should pick up on these things.....Thats why we get paid the BIG BUCKS....LOL!!!

Hope that helps a little.

Edited on 5/6/2009 3:50 PM

BBock727

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2009, 04:24:09 PM »
It lines up between index and middle, but closer to middle.  I am going to go to the proshop today and get my drill sheet copied.  This way I can at least plan what to do next.  

Can I take any of these measurements off my ball with standard measuring tape?  I don't have any measuring equipment and I guess i put too much faith into my driller.

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 04:28:56 PM »
I would try a different pro shop and have your grip analyzed, just like a seceond opinion from a doctor.  Compare with your current grip and if it is a lot different, give it a try.  You really have nothing to lose.

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Re: Thumb issues. Please help!
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 04:29:38 PM »
Where are you located? Maybe someone on here can steer you in another pro shop direction for ideas.
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