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Smokey469

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Question for you Proshop guys
« on: July 27, 2007, 03:52:14 AM »
I recently kinda "inherited" the Proshop at my local center.  Between myself and my friend/co-operator we've got the knowledge covered.  Most of the necessary equipment is there as well(i.e drill press, plug cutter, scale, spinner, etc.)  We are located in a smaller center with 16 old wood lanes, and we are also in a pretty small town, with the next closest center being
Super Bowl about 30 miles away where they have an established proshop.  My problem is that most of our buisness is dedicated league bowlers, whom with our shop is dissarray for about the last 2-3 years have taken their buisness to the other shop.  We are working to correct this problem now, and are starting to get some of our buisness back.  My question is this, being a smaller shop in a smaller center we are unable financially to keep a large inventory, so in the past most things have just been ordered when requested, and not kept in stock.  We want to change that, we currently use Ace Mithcell as our supplier, but wondered who you smaller shops in our similar scenario where able to save to most money with, and still get good service?  Any input would be greatly appreciated...

 

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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2007, 12:02:17 PM »
i'm in the same boat with keeping inventory levels. i cant really keep anything on hand, i use ace mitchell also and they are very good for me. i provide the ordering and worst case scenario the product is here in 2 days tops. most of the time its overnight.  i would try to keep plastic balls in stock and maybe 1-3 mid to high end balls.  word of mouth is huge so i might go to one of your centers high end bowlers and give them a ball and tell him the deal is to spread the word that you know what your doing...good luck with your shop

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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2007, 12:03:23 PM »
most dist.  can get you product in one-two days.

i would stock some of the new highend models in 15 lbs. only.
and special order 14-16 lbs as needed.


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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2007, 03:29:08 PM »
We also mostly stock 15 lbs. only, with some 14s.  The only exception is in the entry level reactive balls and the polyester balls, which we sell quite a bit of in the 10 and 12 pound balls.

I would suggest spending some time out in the center when leagues are going to introduce yourself and offer to watch any league bowler and offer help or tips with their next ball selection.  Most bowlers enter the shop and are baffled as to which balls are best for playing the outside (drier) boards versus one that will allow them to play a little deeper.  They just see a bunch of round balls that are different colors and prices.

If you'll spend 10 minutes on the lanes with them, they will see that you're committed to helping them get the right ball for THEIR game, instead of what works for "Joe Cranker".  They really do want to be "sold" but only when they are convinced that they will get the "red carpet" treatment, whether they spend $130 or $230.

One more observation: Most of the twenty-somethings are just starting out in life and can't spend the money for new equipment as easily as someone who is a little more established in their careers, etc.  Take good care of all your customers, but get to know all of them instead of just your buddies, so to speak.

BrunsNick has said before that he has asked his friends not to hang out in his shop because it has to be a place of business. I have seen it happen at our shop, when it's full of people,(customers or not) sometimes a person who would have normally come in and asked some questions, will stay away because they are insecure about their ball knowledge and will just "come back another time", or try another shop, etc.  Greet them and make them feel like they are the only thing that matters at that moment, and you'll have a repeat customer for years to come.  Good luck.




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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 04:17:12 PM »
In your situation, I'd be really tempted to find out what manufacturer your competition doesn't stock, and sort of "specialize" in that manufacturer. If you have anyone on their regional or pro- staff, this can really work to your advantage. Basically, try to carve out a niche market to work as a foundation for your rebuilding. Of course, I'd be more than willing to order anything from any other manufacturer, as well.

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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2007, 07:00:48 AM »
First thing I would do is put a big sign on the front saying under new management!  We stock what ever sells.  By that I mean know your customer base.  I order a lot of 10 12 and 14 pound tropical storms.  We go through a large amount of WD's, Maxims and TZones in every weight from 6 to 15 pounds.  A top of the line ball may sit for a while unless we run a special.  Last year we ran Morich Awesome Hooks $199.95 including drilling, slug and inserts.  Buy from someone that has free shipping if you buy over $500 at a time.  We turn our merchandise fast enough to be able to buy $500 at least.  

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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2007, 09:22:51 AM »
Thanks for the great advice guys, keep it coming, I'm all ears...
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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2007, 10:50:34 AM »
The center I use to work at we would stock very little. If a ball came out that we thought would sell fast we would stock it. At that time it was the Ti Messengers from Columbia we kept 4-6 on hand to sell them. We would keep maybe 6 different balls on hand to show a difference between them. Sioux Falls has been a Storm and Columbia market for many years so we would make sure that we kept a few items from each of them on hand. Since myself and a few others that worked there also used Track a lot back then we kept a Track ball on hand as well. But we did a lot of special orders. We had two set days that we would order so we could try to place a larger order to save on shipping. If it was something we would need right away the call was placed to get it on the way.
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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2007, 11:15:30 AM »
With no experience I can offer NO ADVICE .. however I do want you to wish you GOOD LUCK! A big adventure hope it goes well for you and your partner!
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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2007, 09:08:53 AM »
Thanks again guys for all of the great advice.  Our center mostly favors Hammer, with Storm not too far behind.  I myself have always been a Track fan, and while I don't wanna push anything just because I like it, I do generally have more knowledge about Track equipment than some others.  On a side note, anybody have good results with a distributor other than Ace Mitchell...
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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2007, 07:48:44 AM »
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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2007, 08:09:48 AM »
We always had good luck with Anchorman sales in Kansas City.

We could order by 3:00 PM and get it the next day.  

But they are a little far away for you.

You should be able to find a distributor near by that can deliver in business day or two at most.  

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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2007, 09:23:46 AM »
My local pro shop operator keeps up 4 small shops or service stations in the region, serviced on a daily basis. He also has not really much space in his showroom, but has the current, most frequent models in 15lbs. on display. Order is normal, though. Anyway, one good marketing tool he uses is a simple catalogue poster next to the showroom which is loacted at the bowling alley's entrance - the whole assortment of frequent and unfrequent stuff with official prices, inlucding entry level packages and the like. Plus the hint at the shop's website and that almost anything can be ordered.

I think this list with some nice pictures is a major tool to tell potential and frequent customers what's available at the moment, despite limited space and stocks, and I think it also attracts entry level players who think about their first set.
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Re: Question for you Proshop guys
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2007, 09:37:38 AM »
I to have a small shop in Goldsboro, NC....I do not keep much in stock as well, especially during the summer time. One thing I would suggest would be to find a hot seller and order the 4 for 1's from Ace Mitchell. For example I have 4 people right now that want to get the NVS, so I am going to order the 4 for 1 and sell each ball for $ 185.00 drilled and make about $400.00. Another thing to do is buy the entry ball packages from Ebonite and Hammer. For example I have brought both packages for under $650.00 and have 8 balls that I will sale and make about $500 - $600.00 on. The main thing is be willing to drill Internet balls cheap. When I say cheap I charge $40.00 with inserts and slug. But then I am done with that ball and dont have to worry about warranty issues. I also use Ace Mitchell and my rep (Brian R.) is great. I am the furthest south customer they have , and would not use any other distr. Anyway hope this helps......
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