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mr300ny

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Rate my Game
« on: December 30, 2013, 08:38:53 PM »
Just want feedback from everyone, on a scale of 1-10, how is my release, balance, follow through, etc. Be honest, I don't care if its bad. I avg 230+ so it can't be half bad.

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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 08:39:46 PM »
Oh, and the first shot isn't serious, just me screwing around. The rest are though
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2013, 07:35:10 AM »
For the first 4 steps, it's a 10.  Last step and delivery is about a 3, but your release is clean and your ball roll looks very good.  Curious though, do you ever bowl on anything tougher, like a sport shot or a PBAX league?  Like to know what that average is.  If you could slow down a bit for the last few steps, get your slide leg more under you, keep from falling off, and tame that armswing down a bit, I could see that average getting even higher.  But with your speed, rev rate, and the area it looks like you have on that shot, all you have to do is keep it right of the head pin and you're going to strike. 
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2013, 08:05:14 AM »
The worst thing I see is that you fall off your shot.  You are not posted or balanced at the foul line.  It may help to get you drag arm (left arm) out more for balance and follow through the shot.

Keep grinding!!!
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2013, 09:01:45 AM »
There is a difference between being able to score and being able to bowl.  Averaging 230 is not an indicator of ability to bowl but of environment. 

I don't say that to be disrespectful.  I saw a video of someone who isn't very good to target and is extremely off balance.  Those are stronger indicators of ability than your average.
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2013, 09:18:12 AM »
Your 185 collegiate average is about what I would expect.  You are +1 in average against the field.  The top college players have a +30 differential. 
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2013, 09:23:40 AM »
Holy elbow. I think something you could try is attempting to post a shot at the line.  Hopefully that will help you feel how off balance you are.
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2013, 09:51:05 AM »
I missed that in his signature, don't pay much attention when they have scores in them.  That is what would expect too. 

Quote from: itsallaboutme on December 31, 2013, 09:18:12 AM
Your 185 collegiate average is about what I would expect.  You are +1 in average against the field.  The top college players have a +30 differential.
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2013, 10:49:51 AM »
Yikes
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2013, 11:07:42 AM »
Not "posting"....
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2013, 11:22:03 AM »
Looks to me like the armswing is causing the balance issue or the fall off, your slide foot is directly beneath you, which means your balance should be fine.  It also looks like your left arm is tucked in rather close, which is going to further shift your weight to the right side.  If you can get that elbow tucked in, release the ball closer to your left ankle, and get your left arm extended more, that should take care of several different things at the same time. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2013, 11:26:44 AM »
The leverage is all loaded up left to right (the fall-off)......
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2013, 11:28:51 AM »
Yeap.  The funny thing about this though is that if this guy cleans up that stuff, his house shot average likely goes nowhere, but I bet his sport average gets a lot higher quick. 

Quote from: Good Times Good Times on December 31, 2013, 11:26:44 AM
The leverage is all loaded up left to right (the fall-off)......
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2013, 12:00:11 PM »
If you can post a side view It would help. I'm not sure but from the back view in your set up it looks like you have the ball to far left. #1 Move your ball more right between your right side and front of shoulder that should keep your ball from going left of your head and arm going away from body on release. #2 You also need more knee bend at the line for more leverage. Side with your left toe to the line and kick your right leg to the left for balance try to keep it as close to the approach as possible. #3 Your timing seems a little early. Your ball is arriving to the release location before you have proper leverage to the release point causing you to fall to the right. partly a cause of #2.  You need to delay your swing cycle just a little or slow your foot work. Can't really tell without a side view but you can try #4.1 pushing the ball up a little on your push away think pushing it over a bar or #4.2 you can make your step before the slide a little longer., #4.3 or move up 6-12in in the approach, 4.4 Make your push off extension longer.  Do all these in stages starting with #1 to #3 and correct the falling off the shot till your able to post the shot more better. After that work in the #4 steps to fine tune timing. Video yourself after each stage for comparison. Good luck
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Re: Rate my Game
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2013, 01:46:36 PM »
My opinion is that rev rate plays a factor in the THS average.  On sport conditions where accuracy reigns.....it's hard for me to believe that the style in the vid will lend itself to much success on a regular basis. 

As noted above by posters....there are a lot of "extra mechanics" that can be simplified and condensed.  Objectively, that arm position isn't working the "inside" of the ball during the approach or release.

Stay inside the ball and get a good knee bend (as well as the other notations above) and you may find yourself not having to flail.
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