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agroves

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Rate yourself honestly, what is your REAL average?
« on: April 05, 2004, 01:14:15 PM »
If you weren't bowling in urethane days then just guess.  I think my real average is 190ish.  It could be closer to 200 but I don't know that for sure.  I averaged in the 190s for a couple of years using the old hammers before I ever used a reactive ball.  

My current house shot average is 214 (highest) but I know it is inflated.  I can bowl par on most conditions.  Just don't give me long oil, I don't think I will ever bowl well on long heavy oil.

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cgilyeat

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Re: Rate yourself honestly, what is your REAL average?
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2004, 07:10:27 AM »
First to answer Andrew's question.  Back in the days of hard rubber (before some of you were born ) my high ave was 195, so my "true" average is 205ish.

Now a resposne to Rdrvgs: sandbagging, in any form is CHEATING, and I don't care how you try to justify it.

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When I acutally try I can average 210 on any condition, when i bowl in leauge I ave 193-197, why? I have been taught to sandbag for handicap tournys, even then I find it hard to compete, with people that are as good as me who get 30 pins a game because they know how to sandbag better than me.
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Mark French

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Re: Rate yourself honestly, what is your REAL average?
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2004, 04:14:55 AM »
I'm averaging 230 on Mondays and 225 on Saturdays (was at 227 but we started bowling on sport patterns 3 weeks ago). In our tournament club down here in So Cal (JAT), I averaged like 217 for around 100 games, and 211 in a travel league after JAT's, so I would say a "true" average for me would be in the mid 2-teens.
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And1_headach

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Re: Rate yourself honestly, what is your REAL average?
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2004, 10:04:26 AM »
i average about 190 in leagues and about 200 in tournys.
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StormStriker

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Re: Rate yourself honestly, what is your REAL average?
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2004, 10:16:54 AM »
At the youth saturday league, at the local disgraceful 'we can't be bothered to spend money on oiling our lanes let alone making them high scoring' alley. I average high 160s, recently 180s though.

at the other alley further away it is usually 200+
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dogman666

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Re: Rate yourself honestly, what is your REAL average?
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2004, 01:53:49 PM »
Rather than put a number on it I phrase it like this

Age 20-25 plastic/rubber house shot 80% better than all the other bowlers (6 games a week)
Age 25-35 rubber/urethane house shot 90% better than all the other bowlers (12-15 games a week)
Age 35-40 urethane/resin house shot 95% better than all the other bowlers (9 games a week)
Age 40-45 resin/particle house shot 85% better than all the other bowlers (6 games a week)

Bottom line...."It starts to go downhill after 40"

When I bowl tourneys around 190 which get's you squat and I have never bowled on a sport shot as far as I know.

But get this I've been to Nationals once.  It was the first year in Reno with the stadium.  I came in averaging over 200 and shot 351 for singles set.  And somewhere my good friend Ken Shaw has the tape to prove it.  I think he files it under the comedy section!
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janderson

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Re: Rate yourself honestly, what is your REAL average?
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2004, 02:25:29 PM »
Apalling.  Ignorance is bliss.

According to the PBA, a THS inflates scores 20 to 50 pins per game (and I definitely agree).  So if you bowl on a THS, you could expect to average 20 pins lower per game on a somewhat challenging condition and average closer to 50 pins lower on a tough condition.

What in hades is a "fair" sport pattern anyway?  How would a sport condition be "unfair"?

I'll agree (to some extent) with the previous poster who said it isn't the equipment that has inflated scores so much but the lane conditions - today's equipment leads to better carry but it is the lane conditions that lead to better pocket percentage and super fudge-room on spares.

On tough conditions today I average in the low 190's.  Back in the plastic and rubber era, I averaged in the low 190's.  On a THS, the sky is the limit - it is only a question of carry.
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