Post by: agroves on April 05, 2004, 01:14:15 PM
My current house shot average is 214 (highest) but I know it is inflated. I can bowl par on most conditions. Just don't give me long oil, I don't think I will ever bowl well on long heavy oil.
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Post by: MSC2471 on April 06, 2004, 04:58:39 AM
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Post by: debs130 on April 06, 2004, 07:05:24 AM
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Post by: Ernie McCracken on April 06, 2004, 07:39:04 AM
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Post by: Leftyhi-trak on April 06, 2004, 08:03:07 AM
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Post by: Goof1073 on April 06, 2004, 08:11:14 AM
I did happen to bowl a plastic only tournament last summer and average around 205-210 and won the thing. That's gotta count for something?
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on April 06, 2004, 09:22:39 AM
No strikes, just makin' them spares...
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Post by: bennett on April 06, 2004, 09:32:34 AM
I averaged 175 back in the rubber/urethane days. I do feel I'm better now, not all attributed to the equipment. But, when I bowled on a sports spot I averaged about that (173-174) over 2 tournaments (16 games). I figure if I bowled on a sport spot more I feel I could average high 170's low 180's. Now if I could only use a urethane or plastic on a sport shot I may wind up a little lower. Who knows?
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Post by: seadrive on April 06, 2004, 10:35:31 AM
I finally got off the wall shot last weekend in our association's annual tournament, where the shot they put out required a little skill to score well. 10 out was out of bounds; it was funny
watching the ball skid down the lane if you got it out a board too far right!With a little luck, I managed to average 185-190 on that shot, so I'd say... 180 is probably a good approximation of my current "real" average.
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Post by: s1nger1 on April 06, 2004, 10:43:05 AM
Post by: Pinbuster on April 06, 2004, 10:43:46 AM
But what is your true average?
…Your average on your favorite shot?
…Your worst pattern?
…Something in the middle?
…A combination of all the above?
If you gave me a shot that matched up perfectly to my game (my normal speed, turn, line, etc) I might be able to average 225 to 230.
If you give me a shot that I don’t match up well to then it might be 185 to 190.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on April 06, 2004, 10:45:30 AM
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And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS! I'd rather blow it over with my storm, and 21mph ball speed on dry shots.
Post by: Ishmael on April 06, 2004, 11:03:48 AM
Post by: Moe on April 06, 2004, 11:34:53 AM
Post by: Wilbert on April 06, 2004, 11:41:58 AM
PS. It's the lane condition that makes the big difference in the scoring not whether the ball is plastic or urethane. Just look at last years US Open and this years Bowling This Month Tournament in Reno.
Post by: pin-chaser on April 06, 2004, 12:52:50 PM
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Post by: mumzie on April 06, 2004, 01:13:18 PM
If I were to bowl on a sport condition right now, probably around 195.
I suffer on a THS because of accuracy - it's a handicap on the house shot, but a definite benefit on the tougher conditions.
Post by: MI 2 AZ on April 06, 2004, 04:38:02 PM
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Post by: northface28 on April 06, 2004, 04:46:48 PM
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Post by: LeftyHomer10 on April 06, 2004, 06:58:54 PM
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It's not over until the 7 pin is standing laughing at you cuz you couldn't knock the sucka down. Oh how that pin laughs.
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Can't sleep, pins are laughing...
Post by: JOE FALCO on April 06, 2004, 07:28:31 PM
NOTE: Ignore spelling errors .. SPELL CHECK not working!
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Post by: Soulphish on April 06, 2004, 07:43:00 PM
Then I discovered technology and sank to 190. Now, I am back up to 199.
I would say that my "true average" might be around 193 or so, but then again, if I didn't have the technology to cover my mistakes, I would try harder and probably average more....
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Post by: Phillip Marlowe on April 06, 2004, 07:47:37 PM
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Post by: BowlingWolf on April 06, 2004, 07:47:45 PM
From 1983 through 1997 my overall average was about 225 (and yes that does include the 1980's when lanemen were still experimenting with hand sprayers, and the advent of the "short oil", which initiated the Blue and Red Hammers--my all-time favorites).
I read all these posts of "higher averages" nowadays. From personal experience, this has always been a pet peeve of mine, as this complaint has always been a constant. True there weren't as many bowlers averaging super high back in the day, but there were always bowlers who were, and those who weren't but could (sand-baggers sound familiar?).
Let me stop my rambling by saying that the more things change, the more they are the same. I still love this game, its eccentricities, and all of the eccentrics that populate this wonderful SPORT!
And oh yes, I think when I get back to bowling in league again, I will still be averaging about my normal.
Post by: Not done on April 06, 2004, 09:55:35 PM
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Easy slider...
Post by: Fatboy8 on April 06, 2004, 10:04:27 PM
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I'll get better someday......I hope!
Post by: Garcia on April 07, 2004, 04:42:35 AM
Post by: Silencer on April 07, 2004, 05:32:14 AM
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Post by: cgilyeat on April 07, 2004, 07:10:27 AM
) my high ave was 195, so my "true" average is 205ish.Now a resposne to Rdrvgs: sandbagging, in any form is CHEATING, and I don't care how you try to justify it.
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When I acutally try I can average 210 on any condition, when i bowl in leauge I ave 193-197, why? I have been taught to sandbag for handicap tournys, even then I find it hard to compete, with people that are as good as me who get 30 pins a game because they know how to sandbag better than me.
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Post by: Mark French on April 08, 2004, 04:14:55 AM
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Post by: And1_headach on April 08, 2004, 10:04:26 AM
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Post by: StormStriker on April 08, 2004, 10:16:54 AM
at the other alley further away it is usually 200+
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Post by: dogman666 on April 08, 2004, 01:53:49 PM
Age 20-25 plastic/rubber house shot 80% better than all the other bowlers (6 games a week)
Age 25-35 rubber/urethane house shot 90% better than all the other bowlers (12-15 games a week)
Age 35-40 urethane/resin house shot 95% better than all the other bowlers (9 games a week)
Age 40-45 resin/particle house shot 85% better than all the other bowlers (6 games a week)
Bottom line...."It starts to go downhill after 40"
When I bowl tourneys around 190 which get's you squat and I have never bowled on a sport shot as far as I know.
But get this I've been to Nationals once. It was the first year in Reno with the stadium. I came in averaging over 200 and shot 351 for singles set. And somewhere my good friend Ken Shaw has the tape to prove it. I think he files it under the comedy section!
Post by: janderson on April 08, 2004, 02:25:29 PM
According to the PBA, a THS inflates scores 20 to 50 pins per game (and I definitely agree). So if you bowl on a THS, you could expect to average 20 pins lower per game on a somewhat challenging condition and average closer to 50 pins lower on a tough condition.
What in hades is a "fair" sport pattern anyway? How would a sport condition be "unfair"?
I'll agree (to some extent) with the previous poster who said it isn't the equipment that has inflated scores so much but the lane conditions - today's equipment leads to better carry but it is the lane conditions that lead to better pocket percentage and super fudge-room on spares.
On tough conditions today I average in the low 190's. Back in the plastic and rubber era, I averaged in the low 190's. On a THS, the sky is the limit - it is only a question of carry.
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