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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: prmtme13 on November 09, 2013, 04:40:51 PM

Title: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: prmtme13 on November 09, 2013, 04:40:51 PM
What does everybody think about re-drilling a brand new ball because you don't like the original drill reaction. I bought a ball that just is not matching up to the drilling, it has way to much over/under. I have never bought a ball and redrilled it right after. Should I expect a much different hit or reaction than if it was drilled that way originally.  Does the re-drill effect the ball that much.
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: Rightycomplex on November 09, 2013, 04:55:40 PM
Have you tried surface adjustments? Exhaust all options before redrilling it. It's not uncommon to do so but surface adjustments will be a cheaper option.
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: prmtme13 on November 09, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
I have change the surface, I have spinner and I have tried some different things. It is the DV8 Dude and we drilled it pin up between the fingers and up about a inch. It just goes way to long. The reaction itself is good in the back end but is really sensative to the oil.
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: itsallaboutme on November 09, 2013, 05:33:57 PM
I don't know anything about the ball, but changing the surface is going to make a greater difference than a different layout.  Based on the core numbers of the ball it's a ball that wants to push down the lane anyway.  Depending on what you PAP is, you may see no difference in another layout.

I know one thing was always the case for me.  If I had a ball I didn't like, I never liked it any more after plugging and redrilling with a different layout.  If I had a ball I loved and plugged it, it always rolled good. 
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: kidlost2000 on November 09, 2013, 05:53:04 PM
Adjust the surface to 1000 sanded and put 3-5 games on it and see what you think then. Dont throw a game or a half game and say its still not right. Give it the full 3-5 and see.
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: Strapper_Squared on November 09, 2013, 06:08:24 PM
I has a similar experience years ago with a rotogrip Apocalypse.  Just pushed too far, and turned too hard on the backend...  I decided ti hit the surface with a 2k pad and leave dull (I almost never like a matte/dull surface) and ended up shooting my best set at the time.  Just enough surface to keep the ball from pushing too far, but still had a strong backend. 

I would a gree with trying more surface.  Also, I agree with the comment that redrilling a ball I didnt originally like never improved it for me...

Scott
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: ch_flash on November 09, 2013, 10:37:14 PM
A P-3 or P-4 hole will make it roll up sooner.
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: Dave81644 on November 10, 2013, 09:58:43 AM
I just redrilled my eruption pro after 12 games or so.
it was pin down with a weight hole.
it slowed down a bit to much for me on tje short sport patterns. 
I redrilled it pin up with no weight hole and a longer
pin-pap.
it changed my look considerably.
I suppose I could have got another one instead, but I wanted to be sure before I spent the $$
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: Steven on November 10, 2013, 10:08:06 AM
Lot's of good advice here about trying surface changes first before going the re-drill route. I agree -- exhaust all options with surface first.


But sometimes that doesn't do the trick. I've found on a few balls/drills, I couldn't "surface" my way to an acceptable reaction. I have a Motiv Primal Scream where I set the pin a little too far from my PAP (bad experiment),  and it's not working for me. I've tried almost everything from 1000 w/no polish to 4000 w/polish, and it's a no-go.


I don't like re-drills, but in my current case it's either that or get rid of it. My sense is that it will be a good ball with the appropriate drill, so I'm probably going to bite bullet and try. 

Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: Juggernaut on November 10, 2013, 12:57:06 PM
 While I really don't like to plug a virtually new ball, I have done it before.

 It won't really hurt the balls performance level at all, especially since it is almost new.

 Before I plugged it though, I would explore the world of surface finishes and weight holes.
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: ccrider on November 10, 2013, 04:05:50 PM
I have done it more than once; most recently with a Storm Vivid. I sold it after realizing that the ball just did not match up with me. I went from my favorite pin up layout to my favorite pin under layout. A waste of time and money. Should have sold the ball without wasting time and money redrilling.

If the ball reaction is not what you are looking for after appropriately adjusting  the surface, cut your losses, sell the ball and move on to something else.
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: prmtme13 on November 10, 2013, 05:20:16 PM
thanks for all of the advice, maybe I will try more surface changes
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: cheech on November 11, 2013, 07:57:52 AM
i like the idea of the P3 P4 hole with surface.
Title: Re: Re-drill of new ball?
Post by: dmonroe814 on November 11, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
I had a similar problem with a Roto Grip Wrecker.  Turned up way too soon.  Changed surface and weight hole.  Gave up and had it redrilled.  Try all the inexpensive changes and redrill as a last result.