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Rival

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More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« on: February 16, 2009, 12:10:54 PM »
Hey guys, I just wanted to get some opinions from you, no matter what they may be.  <FIGJAM> I'm 20, I've been bowling for 5 years, I've bowled a 300 and an 800. </FIGJAM> But that's just not enough for me.  I can shoot a house shot like everyone else.  I can go out there and roll a 550, or a 750.  I have my ups and downs.  I want to better myself, I want to prove that I can compete with the best of them.  My game isn't perfect, but who's is?

In 2007-2008, I won two tournaments and came in top ten on just about every scholarship tournament that I went to.  Guess what, it was a house shot.  This year they've changed it up, making us bowl on the pro-patterns.  Not so lucky this year, I quickly learned that what I was doing the year before wasn't going to help me win any scholarships.  So I went home and changed some things up.  These are self taught changes, so input would be nice.

1. I moved up two feet on the approach.  By doing this, I slow my feet down, and find that I can stay balanced at the line on just about every shot.  Repeating shots became a lot easier.

2.  I used to hold the ball out in front of me with my arm bent up slightly.  I started to put the ball just in front of my hip, to gain a more relaxed stance and arm-swing, thus hopefully keeping a more consistent ball speed and rev-rate.

3.  The third adjustment was the most simple, but is sometimes completely overlooked.  I made sure that my arm follows through on every shot, and made sure I wasn't just "ripping" the ball at the line.




Since then I have bowled in two tournaments (once on the Chameleon, once on the Viper) and I have finished in the top ten both times.  The two previous tournaments I failed to even finish within the cut (top 16).  I want to feel as if the adjustments are working, but I'm just not completely satisfied.  In both of those tournaments, I managed to shoot one high game (278), and then let my 170's (2 games) 180's (4 games)and 190's (4 games) carry me to match play for the other games.

Here's where my mind likes to interfere.  Am I bowling better at these tournaments?  Yes.  But my league scores have started suffering.  Not dramatically, but enough to show a difference.  I usually average between 208-212 in my Saturday league, but have fallen to 201 before finally shooting a 718 to bring it back up slightly.  I'm finding that these adjustments I'm making are causing me to be more consistent shot wise, but my carry just isn't there.  I shot 570-600 all of January with mainly all 190 games, or some low 200's coupled with a 180.
 
Maybe its ball selection, maybe its just something in my head... I don't know, that's why I want your input.  I feel like if I practiced hard enough, I could go out there and at least give it a shot at a regional or two.  But I feel if I went out there right now, I'd just be contributing to the prize fund.  I wish we had some great coaches in my area to help me out, but they just aren't available.  I'm looking to transfer to a college here soon, but there's just so many options, and just getting recognized seems overwhelming.  I feel as if I had some professional level coaching, I would bring my game to a whole other level, its just about going out there and doing it.

Thoughts?  Advice?  Concerns?  How many of you have walked this path before?
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Re: More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 08:17:45 PM »
you are thinking too much instead of just bowling
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Re: More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 08:28:35 PM »
hats off to you for wanting to continue to improve CACI ( constantly and continuously improving )

for me when the level of competition is at its best consequently im at my best ( raising my level to match the competition ) , and it works in reverse for me also.

having said that i have to thinks its a mental let down for you.

when i bowled PBA_X league and was involved in a regular league ( THS ) I killed it on the THS after competing on the PBA_X .

it made me a much better bowler, and the forgiveness on a THS is unreal.

i have to have my head in the game to be successful, and its just hard for me in a regular league to raise my level when everybody around me is a house ball chucking hack...........know what i mean, but when we bowl good teams i rise to the occasion.

i have not been able to get over this hurdle, and i got some years on you

good luck man, and if i learn anything new i'll share it, but my coach now says i have to have fun bowling, and not get so damned wrapped up in all the technical stuff. Thats the draw back to becoming very good, you forget to have fun

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Re: More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 08:37:17 PM »
I completely agree with you there.
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Re: More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 08:38:48 PM »
My coach has told me this for years,"if you find your self in a problem on the lanes, and cant get anything going, just throw the ball." That is what will clear your mind and know where you really stand on the lanes. It helps, because you threw that shot were you normally would and also know then where you need to move or change balls. You might have the right ball but just trying way to hard.
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Maybe its ball selection, maybe its just something in my head...
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Re: More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 04:18:52 AM »
If you feel like you're bowling the ball better, then the scores will come along, just stay focussed on bowling well.

You might have to relearn how to take advantage of the easy THS all over again, the chances are that the changes you've made mean that you can't hit the big numbers there using the same techniques that you always have done. The good news is that once you work out how you can crack the THS with your newer technique you'll be able to hit big scores on both.

If you want to compete with the best of them, try not to get too hung up on your scores on the THS, that's not what you want to be competing on anyway, just use your league time to practice making good shots.
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Re: More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 10:18:27 AM »
It boils down to what your goals are.  If it is your goal to score better on the tougher patterns, don't worry about your THS scores.  I have found the release, ball speed, etc. that work on the PBA patterns don't always carry as well on the THS patterns.
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Re: More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 10:26:22 AM »
My goals?  I mean if we shoot for the sky I would say I want to be the best, but let's face it.  The chances of me making a living of my bowling is slim to none, that's why I'm enrolled in college, and furthering my education.  I just want to be able to say, "Hey I gave it everything I had," or, "I got to bowl the round of 32 with (Insert pro here)."  I guess like most people said, I just want to go out there and have fun, do what I love, but I also want to be the best bowler I can be.  Is there a balance?
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Re: More Practice? Or Just Not Good Enough?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 10:59:32 AM »
S7P,

   You are seeing exactly what is wrong with the game. The better the bowler you become the more difficult it is to score on THS because you do not use the area that the THS gives you. As well, to become more accurate, you are probally going straighter down the lane which reduces entry angles (espeically for THS) which in turn reduces strikes (espically on none perfect shots).

   In order to take the game to the next level you will have to become better. And by better I mean not only physically but mentally. Bowling skill develops in stages in both areas and like a chain you only as strong as your weakest link. Specifically, there is MUCH to learn mentally such as: layouts, top weights, surfaces, cores, reading and understanding what is happening on the lanes (how other bowlers are altering the surface and reacting to both your results and anticipating what others are doing)...etc the list is endless. Then on the same mental side there is attitude, confidence, calmness...etc.

   As for making a living bowling... LOL there are high rollers paying 100K and other tournaments around the world. Pop one of those off every year and you are doing pretty good. As for the PBA these are the best of the best and I would bet few of them are there because of the money. They want to be the best and prove it. Bowl for bowling not for money.

   Dont get side tracked or confused. Stay focused and chase your dream. Everything else will fall into place. If you seem to stop improving by working on the same thing (ie. physical game or mental game) then focus on the other. Its about learning and seek knowledge from everywhere. Send me video and lets see what you look like.
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