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Weaser

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Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« on: November 30, 2009, 03:04:59 AM »
Three times (at least) this season the alley has chosen not to condition the synthetic lanes. Needless to say the results were ugly. I was high on the pair with 457 with a Kinetic Pearl. A real core in a low performance shell will carry better than a pancake, but is it necessary since the shot is so bad???? There is absolutely no hold in the heads. Any suggestions???
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 11:09:39 AM »
PLASTIC!!!
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2009, 11:15:27 AM »
I just bowled on lanes that get oiled once a week.  That is right, once a week.

A real yuppy place.  Nice hugh flat screen Tvs above the lanes, awesome
bar and restaurant, amusement games, but no oil.

I used a 14lb conventional grip plastic ball.  Wasn't too bad.
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 11:25:49 AM »
Lucky Strike???

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I just bowled on lanes that get oiled once a week.  That is right, once a week.

A real yuppy place.  Nice hugh flat screen Tvs above the lanes, awesome
bar and restaurant, amusement games, but no oil.

I used a 14lb conventional grip plastic ball.  Wasn't too bad.
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tdub36tjt

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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2009, 11:27:09 AM »
I would get a Natural and polish the crap out of it.
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2009, 11:48:55 AM »
Plastic....flat out.

On those conditions, its pretty much the only thing that isn't gonna slaughter itself within a few feet of hitting the lanes.

Your carry won't be as good as with a reactive ball on conditioned lanes, but you'll still shoot better than a 457.
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2009, 12:23:47 PM »
Plastic....absolute way to go!

Or a Roto spare tire, spare ball!
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2009, 01:30:21 PM »
Absolute best ball for what you describe: Lane 1 XXXL Starburst! Plastic with a real core! The only one.
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 01:59:25 PM »
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Plastic....absolute way to go!

Or a Roto spare tire, spare ball!
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  The spare tire is plastic. Clear plastic with a tire weightblock, but still plastic. (Actually, all "plastic" balls are really polyester)

  Don't worry about plastic not being enough ball, nor the pancake being enough to carry. It isn't about that, it is about friction and entry angle. If you generate enough of these things, the cover and the weigtblock won't matter nearly as much. After all, Mark Roth once set the average record on the PBA tour at over 220 with a white dot because he had enough friction to create roll and entry angle.

  Get you a plastic ball, wheel it out there, and be amazed.
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 03:33:55 PM »
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Plastic....absolute way to go!

Or a Roto spare tire, spare ball!
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  The spare tire is plastic. Clear plastic with a tire weightblock, but still plastic. (Actually, all "plastic" balls are really polyester)

  Don't worry about plastic not being enough ball, nor the pancake being enough to carry. It isn't about that, it is about friction and entry angle. If you generate enough of these things, the cover and the weigtblock won't matter nearly as much. After all, Mark Roth once set the average record on the PBA tour at over 220 with a white dot because he had enough friction to create roll and entry angle.

  Get you a plastic ball, wheel it out there, and be amazed.
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it depends on the lane surface but if there is truly zero oil then any ball is going to roll out.. even plastic.. learn to just take the hook out of it and go straight at the pocket from the corner. You aren't going to score that well but should avoid a disaster.. get a couple strikes and make the spares and be happy with your 180-190...
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 04:05:35 PM »
BTW - in speaking with the resident pro, the counter person admitted that the "new" laneboy was not instructed to check & fill the tanks on the machine so strip & no oil or squeege & no strip or oil. He promised that it would not happen again - 3rd time for Wednesday night this year.
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 06:58:46 PM »
The difference between un-oiled lanes and scorched/dry/broken down whatever you want to call ugly conditions are night and day.  I've bowled on lanes that weren't oiled in the back of a bar,  and the plastic ball drilled conventional I grabbed off the shelf rolled out as soon as it hit the lane.  Any ball will lose whatever rotation you put on it very quickly making whatever core it has useless.  

It was comical and hard as hell at the same time.  Not something I would pay to do.
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 10:39:17 PM »
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The difference between un-oiled lanes and scorched/dry/broken down whatever you want to call ugly conditions are night and day.  I've bowled on lanes that weren't oiled in the back of a bar,  and the plastic ball drilled conventional I grabbed off the shelf rolled out as soon as it hit the lane.  Any ball will lose whatever rotation you put on it very quickly making whatever core it has useless.  

It was comical and hard as hell at the same time.  Not something I would pay to do.
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agreed.. 100%
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Re: Choice of a Ball for Non-Oiled Lanes
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 11:15:43 PM »
+1 for above as well.

If there is some oil I would drop a pound in ball weight and go with any number of mild reactive pearl bowling balls like the Brunswick Power Groove series. Drill it for maximum length and add more polish as needed. Then get deep and have fun. Add loft as well if needed.

I use a pound lighter pearl reactive for really burnt lanes. Mainly  in tournaments and it makes a huge difference.
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