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n00dlejester

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Rejuvenator/ball baking
« on: June 11, 2008, 02:07:08 PM »
As my saga continues to try and fix my seemingly oil soaked Paradigm Passion continues, here is the latest installment:

I did another water bath on it today, this time I scrubbed it while it was in the water.  It looks good.  Then I put a hair dryer on it to see if anything comes out, and blammo, oil is coming to the top.  

Would you recommend trying to bake out the oil?  Or using that oven in pro-shops: the Rejuvenator if I remember correctly.  If you've had experience with either of these, what are they?  I've never attempted to try a ball in the oven before, so I'm just trying to find first hand experience before I decide to do anything.

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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2008, 10:18:49 PM »
Our Revivor has removed the oil from at least 300 Storm balls in the past several years. It does the job safely because the ball is constantly rotating and the temperature stays at 140 degrees. I wish you all could see how much oil comes out of these reactive and particle coverstocks. I think the shop "record" is for a storm Vertigo that "bled" for 8 hours!

DO NOT put it in your oven home unless you're eager to buy a new ball. I can't even count how many guys have brought in a cracked ball that was tried at home under seemingly safe conditions.


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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2008, 10:30:19 PM »
It's probably only a matter of time before the cover cracks or the core separates.
I have one friend who got lucky with his Brunswick Swamp Monster about 3-4 times. The next time did it in and I was happy to sell him a new ball!


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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2008, 11:10:16 PM »
I dont understand, Ive left my stuff in my trunk in 95 degree weather for 3 days, and not one ounce of oil came out of my Gamebreaker, that has gotten a pretty good amount of use lol.

Im amazed, I really dont understand it.

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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 04:22:49 AM »
Good Luck!!!
I've gave balls water baths and saw oil come out.
I've baked at my ovens lowest tempature and oil came out.  Once its like this plan to do it about every 40 games.  Yes oil comes out but  """"beware they will crack and cores break"""" I've been lucky two guys I bowled with have lost balls to the dump.  I've have my best luck getting them resurfaced on a haus machine at a local pro shop.  Got about 70 games w the resuracing.

I believe taking care of a ball with cleaners and polishes ( I use neo tac products renew it, control it, hook it, and liquid sand paper) and cleaning after every nite of bowling.  I do every thing by hand.  

You can lose a ball to the outdoor heat.  It happened to me last year went on vacation and left ball set by the window.  Cracked about half way around and was indoors.

Good luck all!!!!!


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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 04:42:39 AM »
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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 04:55:40 AM »
If it were me I would keep giving it hot water baths until no more oil came out. It's free and it's safe.
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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 05:06:08 AM »
Grayson: So, particles aren't really water-bath friendly or something?  They have a 1-game break-in period after a bath?  That's pretty weird.  That kinda makes me not want to do it to my particle because it seems that it's not a good thing for them.

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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 05:17:59 AM »
8 hours of bleeding, that is truly amazing.  I will give the ball another water bath today, once I get home from work.  Then I'll re-run the hair dryer test.  

Does your Revivor oven keep the ball wet at all?  Just curious.

Thanks for all the replies guys!
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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 05:22:01 AM »
When the proshop I go to got the reviver a few years back we were able to get 3+ oz of ball weight out of a guys redwolf he was still using.

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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 05:40:49 AM »
Oven is not recommended because heat normally comes from a single side, thus creating temperature differences and tension between shell and filler/core. Cracking risk is high. Better use the water bucket or dish washer at lowest temp.
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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2008, 06:38:45 AM »
I had a Storm Bolt a few years ago that bleed to for 12 hours
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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2008, 07:33:48 AM »
Wow, 3 ounces of weight.  Were all of these balls you guys speak of reacting better with the loss of oil?
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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2008, 09:15:50 AM »
You have to soak it several times until oil stops coming out. My last soak it took about 6 @ 15 minutes each.
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Re: Rejuvenator/ball baking
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2008, 09:25:59 AM »
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Grayson: So, particles aren't really water-bath friendly or something?  They have a 1-game break-in period after a bath?  That's pretty weird.  That kinda makes me not want to do it to my particle because it seems that it's not a good thing for them.


just the experience I had with my Track Arsenal Angular. I do not have the same with my Machine

Could be that back then I just waited too long till I took the ball out.... dunno


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