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sdbowler

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Release/follow through question.
« on: May 14, 2012, 11:06:11 AM »
Over the past few years I have seen more younger bowlers after they release the ball they follow through across the body to the left side of their head (right handers). I was always taught to follow through to your target. Is this the new way that is being taught? What is the benefit if any of it? Remember I have not been bowling for a few years myself, I have seen this while taken my son bowling and watching other kids. Now I am not saying that this is wrong or terrible so don't rip on me for that. I am just wondering is all.

 

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2012, 03:26:28 PM »
I might have described it odd. That is the motion I am talking about.


 
Me either. As I posted before, the young lady from Wichita State who was in the Singles that was televised recently was bringing her arm across like she was trying to start a lawnmower.

Not just dropping her shoulder and bringing her arm up in front of her face. It was a very distinct right to left movement of her arm after the release.

Over the past few years I have seen more younger bowlers after they release the ball they follow through across the body to the left side of their head (right handers). I was always taught to follow through to your target. Is this the new way that is being taught? What is the benefit if any of it? Remember I have not been bowling for a few years myself, I have seen this while taken my son bowling and watching other kids. Now I am not saying that this is wrong or terrible so don't rip on me for that. I am just wondering is all.

This is the part I haven't seen explained. It basically states the bowler's right hand after their release is over their left shoulder. Would a release like this be close to a spin.

I have seen bowlers release late and their hand is over the ball as they release with their arm extended over the lane.


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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2012, 04:42:07 PM »
SD, I thought you explained it fine. I understood what you meant with no problem.  :D
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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2012, 05:10:11 PM »
This is a good video that illustrates the release:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5nnDbV0znE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2012, 05:19:41 PM »
I just watched the first bit of that video and that isn't what I saw from the Wichita State bowler.

The linked video shows a swing slot like others here have described, shoulder down, arm directly below the shoulder and up toward the target with the follow through after the release. The arm will sometimes comes directly in front of the bowlers face or even a little to the left (for a right handed bowler).

I feel the OP was referring to an arm motion that comes completely across the body, at or even below shoulder level with the follow through. The young lady during the collegiate singles championship TV broadcast did it time and again. Her arm slot was not vertical in line with her shoulder and head(as in the linked video), it was at an angle that ended with her arm coming across her body.
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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2012, 08:02:48 PM »
Fagan was the only one I saw the way I am describing. The others will come up towards their face and then come back to the right. Fagan had a shot that he came up on the left side of his face. That is what I am talking about. I will have to look for the link to the video that shows a lot of college players doing what I am talking about.

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2012, 08:13:52 PM »
After watching the video again there was not as much of what I am talking about in there as I thought. However this is the video I was talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0wa8Rjg3BbM

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2012, 09:06:59 PM »
I think you're talking about Jazreel Tan and this is the match you saw? They have a couple of good shots of her from straight ahead where you can really see how she follows through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvjRHfizwfU

Here's Fagan's release in slow motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6teyorBHWs

If you want to see Fagan's release in slow motion from a different view here's a clip of him from the show Time Warp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUtHXNs-7BY

If you go here http://www.faganbowling.com/ask_fagan.html look at the 5th post from the bottom. Fagan somewhat explains why he releases it the way he does. I think it's a way to have high revs but cut back on axis rotation for a more controlled reaction if I'm reading it right.

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2012, 02:24:43 AM »
Ciminelli does what you're talking about as well.

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2012, 02:47:16 AM »
Ciminelli does what you're talking about as well.

And I'd say Ciminelli is probably the most extreme that I've seen.

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2012, 06:56:51 AM »
It doesn't matter if you're a stroker or a cranker or somewhere in between. Tilting the shoulders puts your targeting eye over the ball and creates a swing slot to keep it there.  If you don't cock/uncock at release, your arm will wind up next to your head.  If you employ the cock/uncock at release, your arm will wind up in front of your face.
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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2012, 01:35:11 PM »
Jazreel Tan's armswing is straight, the guys who are bringing up Joe Slowinski's swing slot have the right idea here. If you dont understand why read this and it will make more sense.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/90118337/The-Swing-Slot---BowlingKnowledgeinfo

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2012, 04:41:34 PM »
Oregonbowler that was great. I am glad you posted that. It really explains a lot. Reading through it all I could think about was the way I had coaches working with me to keep shoulders level, keep everything squared up, etc. I did have one person tell me who was working with me that I did have a great swing and it just fell right into place in the pro slot as he called it. I knew what he meant but now I have a better understanding of it. I have never crossed my hand over my face like they are talking about but I understand better of why it is being done. So once again thanks.

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Re: Release/follow through question.
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2012, 04:55:39 PM »
Jazreel Tan's armswing is straight, the guys who are bringing up Joe Slowinski's swing slot have the right idea here. If you dont understand why read this and it will make more sense.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/90118337/The-Swing-Slot---BowlingKnowledgeinfo

Okay, I don't want to register for yet another site like the above link is asking, so is the following link the same one as the link above?:

http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/stories/swing_slot_btm_july_08.pdf

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