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J_w73

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cell or cell pearl with a 20 deg or less drill angle?
« on: January 15, 2009, 07:57:58 AM »
I am wondering if anyone has a cell or cell pearl with a longer pin to pap(5 inch or greater) above the fingers(close to VAL)  and the RG spot at a small drill angle or at a close distant to their PAP ? I'm asking because I have been told that this RG spot on the ball is the high rg axis... So I am wondering since having a long pin above the fingers puts the ball at a higher rg state and this is usually used for skid flip.. I am wondering if putting the ball at an even higher rg state with the RG spot close to the PAP would make the ball even more skid flip and more violent on the backend.. I know this won't be that evident on the cell but maybe on the cell pearl.

Any thoughts  ??
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AngloBowler

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Re: cell or cell pearl with a 20 deg or less drill angle?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 12:49:46 AM »
Putting the mass bias near the PAP/Val will make the ball roll earlier.
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J_w73

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Re: cell or cell pearl with a 20 deg or less drill angle?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 09:31:08 AM »
I am talking about only on the cell and cell pearl and would like to talk about the RG spot.

And if you are.. why then would the cell at it's highest rg not roll later..
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High Series 782
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PBA Xperience ave 180
years bowling 22

Edited on 1/16/2009 10:33 AM
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batbowler

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Re: cell or cell pearl with a 20 deg or less drill angle?
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 09:45:09 AM »
Because as Anglo has stated that when you use a 20* layout it's going to place your rg/mb past your val in most cases, which creates early revs/earlier roll. The lower degree(10* or 20*) you use for your drill angle the earlier the ball will roll and the higher degree(70* or 90*) the later the ball revs. The lower deg* you use for the val angle the closer to your val the pin will be and the higher your val angle the farther away from the val the pin will be placed. Remember using the dual angle layout, the lower the combined number the earlier the ball will roll and the higher the combined numbers the later. Just my $.02, Bruce
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Re: cell or cell pearl with a 20 deg or less drill angle?
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 11:00:00 AM »
ok... I understand what it does.. so why....?? when the ball would be at a higher rg with the RG spot close to the PAP.. and the higher rg should promote a longer look for the ball.
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16-17 mph
350-475 rpm
PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8 up
High Game 300 x 3
High Series 782
Book Average 215 / 205
PBA Xperience ave 180
years bowling 22
350 RPM, 17 MPH