Post by: kendog on May 05, 2004, 10:19:15 PM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Edited on 5/13/2004 9:14 AM
Post by: Pizzaguy on May 06, 2004, 01:33:19 PM
1) a good spare game
2) the ability to check your ego at the door
I've bowled in sport leagues for 3 years now, and I can tell you that if you flag a 10, you're not likely to get that triple to make up for it. It's a grind, and more mentally than physically.
When I first started in the sport league, I was just exhausted at the end of the league. I just wasn't used to having to concentrate on EVERY shot. After a month or so, I was in shape mentally, but it was a tough go.
Enjoy it, and understand that 650 is a HUGE set, and you'll have a blast.
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PIZZAGUY
Making the world safe for tweeners
Post by: kendog on May 06, 2004, 01:33:30 PM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: ThongPrincess on May 06, 2004, 03:44:33 PM
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Age is only a state of mind. Since I lost mine years ago, I must be really young
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on May 06, 2004, 03:56:05 PM
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White Dot
Making life miserable for 10 pins everywhere
http://faldo.atmos.uiuc.edu/FBL/mkting.html
Post by: janderson on May 06, 2004, 04:02:54 PM
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Kill the back row
Post by: MetalGod666 on May 06, 2004, 04:25:42 PM
Post by: kendog on May 07, 2004, 08:44:13 AM
Fluffer that sounds like some pretty good scoring for a sport pattern. Keep it up.
Y'all keep us posted on your experience as the days go by. Perhaps we can help eachother with the different patterns and such. Should be interesting.
Good bowling!
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: livespive on May 07, 2004, 09:48:54 AM
quote:
If I can find one...I would.
Yeah King it's hard to find one sometimes.
I am driving about an 1hr 15min to bowl with
Kendog. I have always wanted to bowl on
tougher conditions so I welcome the chance.
I think Pizzaguy said it best:
To enjoy the league, you will need to check in your ego
at the door.
IT will be a blast (I think)
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Post by: Magic Carpet on May 07, 2004, 10:14:39 AM
It starts Tuesday May 11th, 8:30
We will bowl 4 games of match play changing lanes after each game. It't a ton of fun.
Those of you that are coming to "The Gathering" May 28-30 will get to bowl on some sport patterns. Maybe even a creation of my own...
Ron Clifton
Post by: kendog on May 13, 2004, 08:32:24 AM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Edited on 5/13/2004 8:44 AM
Post by: sheppy335 on May 13, 2004, 08:47:27 AM
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Oil is served Best with fingers!
Why does the 8 Pin laugh at me!
Sheppy
Post by: livespive on May 13, 2004, 12:51:42 PM
Didn't do to bad first game 178. I don't know what happend
I must have grabbed my head by accident and threw it for the last shot in
the first game, but my transition game hurt (my head must have still been stuck
in the ball return from the first game
) 114 (ouch) then my head finally cameback but had a few dings in it and I shot a 166. Finished with a 458 I beat the
blind bowler score by 8 pins total
It looks like it is going to be a fun league. It will give me the
chance to really learn my equipment, and to bowl on tough conditions.
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Post by: ThongPrincess on May 13, 2004, 01:45:19 PM
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Age is only a state of mind. Since I lost mine years ago, I must be really young
Post by: kendog on May 13, 2004, 02:13:38 PM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: ThongPrincess on May 13, 2004, 02:45:10 PM
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Age is only a state of mind. Since I lost mine years ago, I must be really young
Post by: SrKegler on May 13, 2004, 05:13:54 PM
Kendog: From the scores Eric posted, he must have been rushing the line, once his approach goes past 3 inches he loses timing.
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~~~SrK - Have balls, will travel
1st law of combat, "Bullets always have the right of way"
Post by: livespive on May 13, 2004, 05:35:11 PM
Seriously though, I think I need to get a piece of rubber or something
and put it on my right shoe. IF Ken was watching I kept wiping it off
before I bowled.
Anyone got any tips?
Even with some sure gripping shoes my approach is going much past 12 inches....
SALT
This is a lot of mass to have to stop if I stick at the line
I have fell once and I won't do it again. Don't think Ohio could
handle another 10.0
If I stick I got two steps to stop before I land in the lanes
But like I said, on slower approaches It's about a 6 inch aproach,
not 3.
Later
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Edited on 5/13/2004 5:37 PM
Post by: janderson on May 13, 2004, 06:51:50 PM
quote:
One thing I'm seeing after the second week of what I'm choosing to call a "near-sport" condition league - my equipment is all new. That is, I'm seeing reactions out of stuff that re-positions the relationship between most of what I have. Some balls seem stronger; some weaker.... Anyone else notice anything like this?
Rag - Yes, I've experienced this as well. The best explanation I can offer is to consider two balls (A and B). Assume that on "normal" conditions, A outhooks B by 3-4 boards overall. Now switch to a lane condition where there is a ton of oil at the "optimum" breakpoint (determined by ball cover, core, layout, and the way you throw the ball) for ball A and the lane is dry toast at the "optimum" breakpoint of ball B. We'd expect B to outhook A in this case.
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Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on May 18, 2004, 04:40:32 PM
We had 45 people show up for a singles league, and with some of the regulars out for vacation, we might make the league max of 60 players.
The Shot of The Week is a 48 foot long pattern. I have a basic grasp of lane conditions, so if you want more details I'll try to fill in what's on this sheet.
We had our little meeting and then practice started. Just before the meeting ended our secretary made sure to point out that first, the patterns will be different, and second, to make it more interesting, they put 3 lb. 10 oz. pins in the racks. Oh boy
As for me, I just tried to do what I normally do in league, minus the 12-boards-of-area stuff where I can push right and tug left and still strike. I used my El Nino X-It (since it's my goop ball) for all five games, and I felt I fared pretty well. I only netted one 3-count on a badly tugged ball, but on the whole I was pleased with my bowling (and I only missed ONE ten pin).
I didn't switch balls because from the 8-9 board I felt I was getting a good reaction. I ended up shooting 211-162-170/543 for the first three, then after we were matched up for our bonus-pins matches I shot 204 to my opponent's 201, and then he got me 186-162. He got the bonus pins, dommit
I'm looking forward to the rest of the league. Call Monday Beginner's Luck, because I know it won't be that easy the rest of the way
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White Dot
Making life miserable for 10 pins everywhere
http://faldo.atmos.uiuc.edu/FBL/mkting.html
Post by: ThongPrincess on May 18, 2004, 06:55:51 PM
A moment of panic when I was introduced to one of my teammates. The 1st thing he tells me is he plans on us taking no lower than 5th place in the league. My 1st thought is, this is going to be a long 12 weeks. I later found out he is a 169 bowler on the THS.
The league format is 2 games of position, then 2 games of league competition, a total of 6 points per night. Since it is the 1st night everyone will bowl 2 on their starting lane, then move a pair to the right.
Our 1st pair had a fairly easy shot, not a lot of strikes, but makable spares. One open per game in the 1st set for 191-182.
We move and I wasn't as fortunate making the adjustments. The shot was somewhere between 10 and 13. Outside of 10 was OB, inside of 13 the ball slid and left splits. I managed 4 opens in game 3, 3 of which were splits. One of them the sour apple or lily
and I managed to put the ball nicely between the 5-10 missing both I finished with a 139.The last game I refused to hit 10, I either pulled it out to 9 or in to 13, both were not good places to be. I did pick up a few more spares and left a few less splits for a 154 and an evil 666 series. A 166 average, not bad since my book in the center on the typical shot was 180. The biggest thing was I did not allow myself to get frustrated and maintained a good attitude.
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Age is only a state of mind. Since I lost mine years ago, I must be really young
Post by: kendog on May 20, 2004, 09:10:05 AM
At the time I couldn't really say I'd learned anything from the night's experience, but this morning I realize I made a cardinal error of switching balls too much. I'm going to limit myself to three next week.
I did cover a couple of tough splits in the third game to scrape out a 166 for my high game. 418 series I think, which drops me to 162 ave.
One tough thing about this league was that we only got time for two practice balls. Personally, I need more than two balls to get loose. Maybe I'll try to get a game in before the league starts next week.
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: livespive on May 20, 2004, 10:07:25 AM
Looking back I realized that I haven't used my oil
game in so long that I was rusty. I was holding the ball
low in front of me instead of to my side. IT cause a few
acuracy problems, but nothing to major. Ken also mention
having to many balls. I guess I am kind of there to learn
what my balls will do, so I bring as many as I can
I will say that yesterday made me think about how I want to set
up an arsenal. I think I am going to go more with surface changes
more than layout changes.
I was bowling yesterday and playing a little with my schorcher,
but for the most part I was using my two charcoal executioners.
I started the first game with a 167, not bad. The ex was moving
more than the scorcher to me (must mean that this wasn't a true flood).
The ex was drilled label leverage and was in box condition.
Second game I was still getting a good responce from my ex until
about the 8th frame. I started to get a little to loose, and my
ball speed was getting up there. Very bad for 42'. Still pulled
out a 172.
Third game a switch to my ex drilled 315. I liked the read I was getting
except with with my ball speed I needed a little more surface on that ball.
I ended up fighting my ball speed that game and shot 138
I think I am going to get another ex and drill it 315 but leave it in box
condition, or even scuff it a tad, because I like the reaction of that drill.
Sr.
I went back to the 3" approach and the timing improved
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Visionary Test Staff Member
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Post by: Pizzaguy on May 20, 2004, 10:37:18 AM
The summer league is using a 38 foot, forward oil only pattern for the first 6 weeks. I had a new piece to break in, a V2 Clean, so that's what I used. All I can say is when this breaks down, it goes fast. I started standing on 20 and throwing up 10, had a great line to the pocket. By the middle of the second game I was standing on 37 and swing 19 at the arrows out to about 9-10. Definitely out of my comfort zone.
Scores: 212-180-168-190/750. Had a couple of splits the second game, and missed 2 10 pins the third game because I didn't believe a Blue Dot could move 7 boards. Took 11 out of 12 points though.
Afterwards, I bowled a couple of extra games, used my dull Khameleon drilled for max hook, and threw pretty much straight up 5. Had a great line, must of thrown 7 or 8 in a row. Whether I can do that in competition tonight is another story.
More to come.
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PIZZAGUY
Making the world safe for tweeners
Post by: SrKegler on May 20, 2004, 02:01:22 PM
The house let us bowl for free though just so we could tell everyone what they were missing.
First time I've been able to bowl since the car wreck so I'm pretty satisfied. Shot was pattern E. Don't know where they came up with it pertaining to easy.
154 1st game, 3 big splits 3-5-7 frame, used my Pearl Bomb.
Switched to my Thing 2d game, 184, one open.
Lanes opened up 3rd game, shot clean 226, 564 series.
Unfortunately, doesn't look like we can get up to the 20 people the house needs to justify running the league. Its really a shame, all of us had more fun trying to find the shot and ending up with 150 games than we do when we just dump it right and hope for the carry.
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~~~SrK - Have balls, will travel
1st law of combat, "Bullets always have the right of way"
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on May 24, 2004, 11:48:31 PM
:ahem:
I had my highest sport game and first sport 600 tonight!!
I rolled games of 243-179-182 for 604, and finished 8th out of 43 bowlers. My next two games were 165-191/356, and my opponent shot 365 so I missed the bonus 30 points AGAIN, dommit
I had 960/5, so I won't complain too loudly. I like shooting spares on long patterns. I've only missed two ten pins in ten games Oh well, it's been fun, and I can't wait to bowl the four patterns through the rest of the season. Here's what we get in the coming weeks:
Weeks 1-3: 44 feet traditional sport
Weeks 4-6: 33 feet Junior Gold 2002
Weeks 7-8: 53 feet modified 2002 Sr. Masters
Weeks 9-10: 40 feet 2004 U.S. Open
I think my Red Pearl Hammer might make an appearance starting in Week 4
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White Dot
Making life miserable for 10 pins everywhere
http://faldo.atmos.uiuc.edu/FBL/mkting.html
Post by: kendog on May 25, 2004, 08:33:05 AM
I'm not sure if this is gonna cure me or kill me!Sr, sorry to hear about the poor turnout for your league. We certainly didn't have that problem here. I believe we have like 22 teams in our house.
One nice fringe benifit to sport leagues that I see already, since you mostly have serious bowlers, you get pretty decent participation in the jackpots $$$; nothing huge, but a few wins could cover a bruised ego nicely.
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: ThongPrincess on May 25, 2004, 12:28:15 PM
Last night was a more consistent night for me, with the last game being the toughest. Games 1 & 2 were my fault, my timing was just a little off and I couldn't release the ball consistently. Since I only averaged 166 last week, they were respectable 179-164.
My timing was back for the 2nd set on the second pair of lanes, but I never found a line. 178-155. I did shoot 10 pins higher than last week and my average is up to 167. Unfortunately my team is still looking for their 1st win. We are 0 - 12
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Age is only a state of mind. Since I lost mine years ago, I must be really young
Post by: janderson on May 26, 2004, 01:13:29 PM
168-159-152: 479
Easily 100 pins in missed spares (and not counting splits!)
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Kill the back row
Post by: kendog on June 02, 2004, 02:08:37 PM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: janderson on June 02, 2004, 03:13:32 PM
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Kill the back row
Post by: Ragnar on June 02, 2004, 03:16:31 PM
quote:
Couple of hours until this weeks brutality is begun.
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avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
What a glutton for punishment.
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Just run to the line, plant and heave.
"Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,"
Post by: kendog on June 02, 2004, 04:02:02 PM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: Bowlers Alley Nick on June 02, 2004, 08:28:28 PM
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you can roll the dice until they call your bluff
but you can't win until you're not afraid to lose
Post by: kendog on June 03, 2004, 09:26:29 AM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: JOE FALCO on June 03, 2004, 09:59:25 AM
I had my ICON with me this week and used it for the first two games. Shot 204 and 207. Adjusted my line today to throw the ball a little longer and harder and I was able to hold the ball to the pocket. There were quite a few WRONG SIDE strikes .. but I was close. I usually have LITTLE problem with the 10 .. didn't make one of the three I left.
The Third game I wanted to try my PARTICLE BLADE. Shot 140 .. it was TOO STRONG on the BACK END for me..
I have a few more balls I want to try on the SHOT .. figure I'll try two different ones each week. I'm not looking to come out with an AVERAGE but do want to spend my time LEARNING!
Having a GREAT TIME!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
Post by: kendog on June 03, 2004, 10:53:57 AM
I did try taking some notes last night and it really helped me focus. I simply jotted down my foot position, mark and break point with result. I think this could be a big help especially when the tougher shots are there. To me, when I'm struggling to find my line, I think this will help me to be more systematic about adjustments.
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes, and check your own spelling
Post by: livespive on June 03, 2004, 06:50:46 PM
I shot 518 last night with Kendog. 134 163 221
I think I might have done better last night if my balls were
back from Reno. I had to use my Crimson Executioner instead of
my Charcoal. It wasn't until the lanes broke down a little that
the Crimson really worked for me.
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Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Post by: Pizzaguy on June 04, 2004, 10:32:02 AM
Last week was downright ugly. My spare shooting deserted me, and I had no accuracy at all. Shot 670/4. And I was lucky to get that.
Different story this week. I was coming out of the ball way too early, and a small tape adjustment corrected that problem. My spare game returned, only missed 1 makeable spare in 4 games. And I finally convinced myself to get my fat butt out of the middle of the lane and out to 5 board. You just can't play these shorter patterns inside (at least I can't).
Results: 189-204-203-184/780
Now I'm off to Reno next week to be humbled again.
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PIZZAGUY
Making the world safe for tweeners
Post by: kendog on June 04, 2004, 11:28:47 AM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
Post by: pba300900 on June 04, 2004, 12:24:04 PM
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Not just any athlete can handle a bowling ball!!
Post by: livespive on June 04, 2004, 01:01:12 PM
quote:
i bowl in the same league as kendog and livespive. have shot 585, 518, 609, 627 so far. we will see how it ends up though.
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Not just any athlete can handle a bowling ball!!
Oh you do??
We will have to introduce ourselves sometime.
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Post by: pba300900 on June 04, 2004, 01:17:00 PM
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Not just any athlete can handle a bowling ball!!
Post by: livespive on June 04, 2004, 01:26:07 PM
quote:
i work with ken over here at Delphi. i will see you guys next week and introduce myself.
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Not just any athlete can handle a bowling ball!!
WEre you the guy bowling there at the end of leagues that Ken
was talking to?
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
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Post by: pba300900 on June 04, 2004, 02:03:06 PM
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Not just any athlete can handle a bowling ball!!
Post by: livespive on June 04, 2004, 02:17:30 PM
quote:
yeah that was me.
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Not just any athlete can handle a bowling ball!!
Yeah, I'll have to say hi next week, unless we are bowling each
other, then the gameface is on
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Post by: janderson on June 09, 2004, 02:56:21 PM
Still missed some easy spares though
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Kill the back row
Post by: kendog on June 09, 2004, 03:00:50 PM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
Post by: ThongPrincess on June 09, 2004, 07:30:50 PM
We are now 3-15. I was about to start a pool to guess when or if we would win a game.They told us they were going to toughen up the shot next week. Too many guys were shooting too many 200s. The oil would still be 43 feet, but they would change the pattern. Right now it is 43 feet with the heaviest oil in the first 23 feet. Unfortunately the lane oiling chart was done with a black and white printer so it was near impossible to figure out what they were doing.
Games 1 & 2 I was working on the things Ron had talked to me about. I was too focused on the pushaway and missed way too many easy spares for 143-152.
Games 3 & 4 I got into a more natural swing and was not only more successful in picking up the spares, but also in carrying the strikes. My release was smoother and quieter. 198-172. So a valuable lesson don't be over concerned with the pushaway
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Age is only a state of mind. Since I lost mine years ago, I must be really young
Edited on 6/10/2004 10:41 AM
Post by: kendog on June 10, 2004, 10:26:19 AM
I did both of the things I had mentioned earlier, started with targeted practice shots, (little or no help at all) and kept notes. The only notes I kept were very brief and just to get started. Once I got lined up in the second game, didn't need any notes.
First off, I don't know exactly what the pattern was, except it was light medium length, a mild reverse block of some sort. I tried my Blueberry as well as my Thing Returns, minimal success. Then I decided to , just for fun, try my Roto-Resurrection. That ball really surprised me. Feet at 30, mark at 20 halfway between dots and arrows and out to like 15 or so breakpoint. This ball got pretty decent length, with a great backend continuous through the pins. Went 137,235,236 for 608.
I may try to continue with the practice shot routine, but I think the notes as well as moving further inside to get away from the out of bounds were the best help. I should be somewhere over 170 ave. next week. My goal now will be to see how close I can get to 200 before the season's over.
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
Post by: livespive on June 10, 2004, 10:50:33 AM
Hope they play the same next week (I'm dreaming
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Visionary Test Staff Member
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Post by: MI 2 AZ on June 10, 2004, 10:51:38 AM
http://www.probowluk.co.uk/pbiScoreSheetIdx.htm
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I just want 2C was'zzub.
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I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"
Post by: livespive on June 10, 2004, 11:09:13 AM
Thanks
quote:
Kendog or anyone else who wants a scoresheet to make notes on:
http://www.probowluk.co.uk/pbiScoreSheetIdx.htm
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I just want 2C was'zzub.
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I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Post by: kendog on June 10, 2004, 11:11:17 AM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
Edited on 6/10/2004 11:08 AM
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on June 10, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
169-134-168/471 for the first 3, primarly with my X-It. I moved to my bonus pair and almost had a Century Award (not the kind a person actually wants)
215-117 (??). The worst part? I lost my 30 bonus pins by THREE STICKS, dommit!! At least my loss number shrinks with every week Highlight of the night: A guy on my pair during the bonus match (righty) managed to take the 6-8 out of a full rack
Next week we get the 33-foot Junior Gold shot, so I've dusted off my Red Pearl Hammer and I'm ready for battle
P.S. -- My adult/youth league starts next week, and I'm hoping to average 170 with ONLY my Ed, Edd & Eddy Viz-A-Ball
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White Dot
Raising kids is like trying to nail Jell-o to a tree.
http://faldo.atmos.uiuc.edu/FBL/mkting.html
Post by: Amleto on June 10, 2004, 01:35:11 PM
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Am-1337-o
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on June 15, 2004, 09:00:30 AM
I switched to the Grey Wolf, and moved WAY left to stand at 35, and I was targeting the breakpoint on the lane by looking at the shadow of the 6 pin. My scores weren't great for the first three though. 153-193-156/502. However...
We changed pairs for the bonus match, and FINALLY!! I won my 30 bonus pins!
My opponent shot 160-161, and keeping the same line (stand 35, target the shadow of the 6 pin) I shot 204-234. Woo hoo! I had 940/5, and I think that's my highest set ever.I rather like scratch bowling. For my next trick, I'd like to win maybe ONE sidepot, since I've lost sidepots by 1 and 2 pins. I can't wait till next week to bowl again.
P.S. -- Thursday is when the adult/youth starts, and for me, it's plastic only. My son is so excited he's almost foaming at the mouth
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White Dot
Raising kids is like trying to nail Jell-o to a tree.
http://faldo.atmos.uiuc.edu/FBL/mkting.html
Post by: Bowlers Alley Nick on June 15, 2004, 08:40:53 PM
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you can roll the dice until they call your bluff
but you can't win until you're not afraid to lose
Post by: MetalGod666 on June 16, 2004, 01:35:07 AM
Post by: kendog on June 16, 2004, 10:27:35 AM
I tried the scoresheets MI 2 AZ linked above. I personally didn't find them that useful. But that is because I like to scawl and can't write in a 1/8" space. I'm gonna just scribble on scrap paper, it's just as useful for my focus. I don't see my notes as anything I want to file away for reference, just a focus tool for the moment.
Hopefully we'll be posting our winnings up here in a bit.
Later,
Ken
Post by: livespive on June 16, 2004, 03:42:40 PM
"Sports CHALLENGE League
)While I was MIA last week my partner shot his tail off.
So it's time to see if I can follow.
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Edited on 6/16/2004 3:42 PM
Post by: janderson on June 16, 2004, 07:56:33 PM
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Kill the back row (or maybe this should read "quit missing spares, dummy")
Post by: ThongPrincess on June 17, 2004, 01:40:55 AM
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Age is only a state of mind. Since I lost mine years ago, I must be really young
Post by: kendog on June 17, 2004, 09:42:41 AM
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kendog avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
Post by: livespive on June 17, 2004, 09:51:13 AM
quote:
Well we split last night. I struggled on this light pattern. I never did figure out what it was exactly. The ball would get down the lane, but very little oil on the ball to get a read on oil location. After several bad breaks and taps ended up at 492 I think. So I should be hovering at about 170. Seven more weeks to go.
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avoids spare shooting at all costs
just throw strikes
496 but who's counting
As my partner said the pattern was odd. Had to throw a sanded ball to see any
oil. The oil was short and a tad on the light side, as I was able to start with my 315 Charcoal Executioner. I don't usually bring it out till the second
game. With a little speed adjustment I was able to play between the 10 and 15
like I normally do with that ball.
IT was a little warm so the ball stuck in my hands a few times oops
Shot 503.
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Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Post by: ThongPrincess on June 22, 2004, 01:27:07 PM
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Age is only a state of mind. Since I lost mine years ago, I must be really young
Post by: livespive on June 22, 2004, 01:37:26 PM
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I don't know if it was the lanes or me, but they didn't seem to transition as quickly this week. First pair 162-131, second pair 166-192. I was working on slowing down my feet and it seemed to help. Maybe next week all 4 will be 160 or better.
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Post by: JOE FALCO on June 22, 2004, 03:13:57 PM
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Post by: ThongPrincess on June 22, 2004, 03:23:36 PM
Last week I was wiped out and had little patience. This week I was rested and was able to improve as the night went on...sort of. My coach told me my feet were too fast last week. So I have been working on it and was able to slow down the feet without sacrifice of my timing. Games 1 & 2 on lanes 17 & 18 162-131. I stuck with the V2 Strong, but might have been better making a ball change in game 2.
Games 3 & 4 on lanes 23 & 24 166-192. I switched from the V2 Strong to the PDW in about the 3rd or 4th frame of game 1. PDW tended to hold a better line than the V2 Strong which was more inconsistent at the backend.
Our team actually won 2 points and are now at 5 - 25
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Post by: kendog on June 22, 2004, 03:42:49 PM
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Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on June 22, 2004, 03:53:20 PM
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2 Valuable lessons learned: 1) Never bowl a sport league when you are already wiped out and 2) slow down the feet.
I'd like to add for myself: "Eat something before you go bowl, Dummy."
I went to league last night and having eaten at 3:00 and nothing since, I bowled awful. I'm hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) and thank goodness I keep glucose tablets in my purse.
We have one more week on the 33-foot pattern (YAY!). My spare shooting was fine except for ten pins. I also had the thrill of watching a guy who drew my pair of lanes shoot 298 with a Dyno-Thane Vendetta (6-10 on the last ball, and all 12 were in the 1-3 pocket).
As for me, it was not too hot. 140-163-147/450 for the first three, then changed pairs for the bonus match and shot 156-141 and won my 30 bonus points (I still don't know how I did that, either).
I'm ready for a 53 foot pattern in two weeks, that's for sure
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Post by: JOE FALCO on June 22, 2004, 11:29:02 PM
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Post by: Hammer3003 on June 23, 2004, 01:13:12 AM
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Bowl To Win!!!
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Post by: JustinM on June 23, 2004, 01:46:36 AM
The coolest thing is that for the first time in a long time I have had to move right on the approach.
Post by: kendog on June 24, 2004, 11:03:04 AM
I'm learning, slowly, but it's coming along. I'm not cleaning gutters anymore, I've learned to stay inside. Thing is, I'm not sure if this will help me outside of a Sport condition. 513 last night to hold at 171 average. I have to give props to my Roto Retro Res, this ball is my go to piece. Granted I'm not setting the world on fire, but, I see definite improvement a week at a time. Also, I'm gaining a much needed feel for my arsenal. I've discovered that my Thing returns is a great follower to my RRR. But back to the retro, you've just gotta get yourself one of these. This is the smoothest power I've ever had my hands on; it gets through the heads well, reads mid-lane really well, and once it starts it's roll there is no stopping.
Well enough of the Roto praise, The shot was again light medium in the middle with a heavy out of bounds outside of 10. I played feet at 30 targeting 20 a few feet in front of the arrows going fairly deep out to about 12-13 at the break with an aggressive backend. I had no problem getting to the pocket, but initially carry was tough. I just couldn't get the angle to carry and shot many single pin spares. The solution for me was to ad a bit of loft with good speed which gained me a bit of entry angle with plenty of energy into the pins. As always, it seemed that a board either way would take you either through the nose or into the 3 pin.
Six weeks to go, and I'm hoping to gain ground on improving this average through the end of the season.
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Post by: livespive on June 24, 2004, 11:11:28 AM
Shot on the same shot last night. Must have been a
bunch of oil in the very middle of the lane. If I made
a mistake and pulled it to the center, the ball skated ALL the way
down the lane and hit the head pin.
I was able to play 10 to 15 with my 315 Charcoal executioner
again, once I woke up and decided to bowl.
134 173 163 My avg for the league is (or was I should say) 163
I'll have to tear them up for the last six if I am going to finish with a
decent average.
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Post by: kendog on July 01, 2004, 11:04:16 AM
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Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on July 01, 2004, 01:09:14 PM
Note: I said two weeks because we have July 5 off -- grillin' and chillin'
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Post by: JOE FALCO on July 01, 2004, 01:37:33 PM
Although I'm not bowling WELL .. I'm really enjoying the condition .. look forward to the league each week. If you haven't tried it .. I think 90% of you would LIKE it!
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Post by: kendog on July 01, 2004, 01:46:32 PM
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Although I'm not bowling WELL .. I'm really enjoying the condition .. look forward to the league each week. If you haven't tried it .. I think 90% of you would LIKE it!
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It may take a week or two for the enjoyment factor to kick in completely,
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Post by: ThongPrincess on July 01, 2004, 06:02:40 PM
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Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on July 02, 2004, 09:04:51 AM
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I feel the same way though, it's a hoot, and after all you're all in the same boat. We currently have only two bowlers out of roughly 60 that are carrying 200.
Out of 40 people, we have 6 guys over 200 (the highest is 212, and that's the guy that shot 298 two weeks ago).
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Post by: kendog on July 02, 2004, 09:43:14 AM
One other thing, as far as the breakdown on the second game scores. It seems like you sometimes have to think opposite of normal conditions in ball changes. In other words with some of the heavier oil patterns, you have to go more aggressive as the night goes on due to transition instead of less aggressive like you would on a house shot that is burning up.
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Post by: JOE FALCO on July 02, 2004, 09:47:53 AM
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Post by: Ragnar on July 02, 2004, 10:49:16 AM
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Rags-- With the scores you reported, you will never con-
vince me that you are bowling on a true sport or tourn-
ament condition. House bowlers don't score that well on
a difficult condition. On a changing sport condition
this summer, at the Gold Coast, only four out of 72 of
the best bowlers in Vegas average over 200, none over
215. If any of your bowlers are coming to Vegas next
week for the amateur tournaments, they should win them
if they are that good.
Edited on 7/2/2004 3:34 AM
Jimmy, my average in this league is under 180. I've shot 650 once, 63X once. Also shot a couple of 4somethings. Trust me it is sport compliant - the league average is 169; including a regional pro who normally shoots 23+ on the ths. Week before last he shot 489 (and he is the laneman). Thing is, even though the house is relatively new (about 2 years) there seems to be some pretty noticeable discrepancy between lanes and how they play. Every time I'm on the upper end I shoot better scores than on the lower end, and I think that's true for most. Be convinced or not, it is a sport compliant shot - I think you made some assumptions about who is averaging what which are wrong. No one is going to Vegas, with the possible exception of one guy. Look for a short guy with a long name - Rich Broderhausen. Look for him at the pay window, I'd just about guarantee he'll cash if he goes.
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Post by: janderson on July 07, 2004, 01:02:07 PM
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Kill the back row (or maybe this should read "make your spares, dummy")
Post by: mumzie on July 07, 2004, 01:24:26 PM
Other than one week with a game of 238, followed by two 160 games, I've had a remarkably horrible scoring summer.
Last night, however, bowling on the us open shot, I had games of 211 (one open - a 4-9), a CLEAN 184, then a rough 155 with 3 missed spares. This was the first night we bowled on this shot (changes every 4 weeks), and although my scores weren't huge, I think they were close to high for the entire league!
The transition was puzzling, to say the least.
Anyone got any hints on this shot? I was in at 11 at the arrows, with 2 boards swing, with my Black Cherry Bomb. Had a great look until the transition hit.
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Post by: livespive on July 08, 2004, 09:36:13 AM
I figure I better get this over with
Shot horrible yesterday, had a 428 (yes 428)
GOt beat by the blind bowler (450)
Shot a 94 (no, this is not bowling slang for 194), 147 and 187.
Last game was for pride because I was wasn't going to let Kendog sweep
me all 3 games.
PAttern was simple, it was just the bowler. short oil, OOB outside the 10,
and no pull room in te middle. Bad combo if you missed last week, and haven't bowled in 2 weeks. IT was hard to figure out the pattern when you were stiff
and inconsistant. By the time I got loose it was to late the damage was done.
By the 3rd game, I could have went 3 more, and probably shot about mid 500.
Kendog did good had a 207 167 181 555.
We would be deadly if we could get on the same page
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Post by: kendog on July 08, 2004, 10:01:02 AM
I did waste a few frames last night. Very demanding shot as always. It seems like you have a board maaayyybe to the right or left to have a chance of hitting and carrying. Anyway, after a tough transition in the second game I thought maybe a move right with really soft hand might create some forgiveness, WRONG. I may experiment a little more, but for me, I have to keep good speed as well as consitant lift on the ball to score. The one reall bright spot on the night yesterday, was that I did manage to pull myself up by the bootstraps the last game to go off with a four bagger to win the game and split series after being beaten the first two games.
Again, I can't wait until next week. I think I may do the Fall Sports league as well.
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Post by: livespive on July 08, 2004, 10:04:44 AM
lolIT's a learning experience, so I might as well learn to live with it.
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Post by: kendog on July 08, 2004, 10:08:23 AM
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Post by: livespive on July 08, 2004, 10:20:20 AM
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you're right Eric. Even though you totally block my view from getting a read off your shots LOL. You do keep reminding me that this Sport bowling is about improvement and learning your game and your equipment. It's a great experience.
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What do you mean??
I stop far enough behind the foul line that you should be able to see.
Are you blind? lol
Yes it is about learning your equipment, and it has tought me alot.
Example, that 315 charcoal is the ball ball to use, but I think I need
maybe 1 or two more with different covers on them. That crimson came in
good, but looked like it would be to snappy if I pulled it, which is what I was
fighting all night.
Even though the purple dc was getting through the heads I don't like the
way a pin over the bridge ball feels when I throw it. This is the second
time I've tried it on a ball and have had no luck. Leverage is the best pin location for me. SO needless to say the Purple DC will be on the selling block.
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Post by: JOE FALCO on July 08, 2004, 11:23:58 AM
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Post by: kendog on July 08, 2004, 11:28:38 AM
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Post by: janderson on July 14, 2004, 12:40:41 PM
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Post by: mumzie on July 14, 2004, 12:43:05 PM
163, 224 (great game - one of the best I've EVER thrown), then transition set in (UGLY), 6 splits for a wonderful 124.
Century award, anyone???
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Post by: kendog on July 14, 2004, 02:15:24 PM
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Post by: janderson on July 14, 2004, 03:58:46 PM
If you have some bowlers working together to "develop" the shot by playing the same part of the lane, a flat pattern can be opened up to some degree. Even if you don't have bowlers working together, eventually the lanes will begin to break down and certain parts of that flat pattern are now no longer flat (more oil in some places less in others). I think that is why some people say that you must play a flat pattern on line-X or line-Y ... they probably had some success at one time or another playing to an area that had been developed/opened up.
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Post by: ThongPrincess on July 14, 2004, 04:13:59 PM
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Post by: JOE FALCO on July 14, 2004, 06:47:50 PM
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Post by: tenpin on July 14, 2004, 07:54:51 PM
. Finally the 35 was alright struggled at first then I found that my TNT drilled stack with pin about rf cg in center with weight hole high was doing the trick for that shot. I averaged about 192. For the 11wks I average 191. I was pretty happy with that. I love sport shots but the only problem is where I am from is a city of about 50,000 and they don't like tough shots. When they put this shot out only about 16 of us showed up regularly.
Post by: JOE FALCO on July 21, 2004, 09:32:51 AM
I still would like to see this type of shot continue for the Winter .. but since it's tough to get practice lanes .. I'd like to see AT LEAST a four game set! As bad as I'm bowling .. I'm already looking forward to NEXT WEEK!
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Post by: janderson on July 21, 2004, 01:01:24 PM
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Post by: JOE FALCO on July 28, 2004, 11:45:48 AM
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Post by: Ragnar on July 28, 2004, 12:15:10 PM
I'd like to see another sport league this fall, but I don't think it will fly. The same 16 of us will be back for more next summer, but I don't think anyone else in town is interested.
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Post by: ThongPrincess on July 28, 2004, 04:18:42 PM
Last week, bowling alone on my team 171-183-173- then the cursed 133
. I did win 2 points for my teamThis week 191- the curse strikes early 134 - 159 - 178. On a positive note I am back up to a 160 nearing 161.
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Post by: Ragnar on July 28, 2004, 04:41:44 PM
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Dang 130 games are haunting me...I can't seem to go a night without one
TP, I know what you mean. Probably 7 or 8 of the 13 weeks we bowled I'd have a 130 or 140 something with two 190+ games. And only once or twice was the bad game the first game. Transition and very slow decision making killed me.
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Post by: ThongPrincess on August 03, 2004, 03:39:14 AM
159-129-142-145 See no 130
If I had picked up that 7 pin in the 10th frame of game 2...well I'll be in Chicago next Monday, so I have 2 weeks before I find out if the curse is really gone--------------------
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Post by: mumzie on August 05, 2004, 01:22:49 AM
I got out my handy dandy note cards after the second game trying to point the ball up 10, and leaving one 8-10, almost leaving another, then almost leaving the 5-7-10. Second game 168 with 2 opens, 1 strike - better count.
I moved my eyes in to the dots, and the ball dead straight up 12. Boom. Boom. Boom. 222.
I think I'm gonna like this shot for the next 3 weeks!
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All things are difficult
before they are easy.
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Post by: livespive on August 05, 2004, 09:09:16 AM
quote:
Well the 130 curse may be over. No 130 tonight.
159-129-142-145 See no 130
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Dangit TP,
I think I caught your sickness
135, 136, 143 414
Final night
Short oil clean backends, new hand position, all I can say is at least I was consistant
I used to tuck my pinkie, but now I think because of span issues I might have to change. I tried bowling without tucking last night, and it was different.
ALl and All for the season it was fun. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
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Post by: janderson on August 05, 2004, 06:15:04 PM
Someone please grab me by the shoulder and pull my skull out of my buttocks.
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Post by: kendog on August 06, 2004, 08:53:44 AM
On the other hand, if, as some have described, you have a few weeks to shoot on each pattern with information as to what you are bowling on; that would seem to be a bit more useful for improvement.
Thanks again to Livespive for travelling down to bowl with me. His unique approach kept it interesting to say the least.
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Post by: kendog on August 06, 2004, 09:09:41 AM
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Post by: livespive on August 06, 2004, 09:12:16 AM
quote:quote:
Thanks again to Livespive for travelling down to bowl with me. His unique approach kept it interesting to say the least.
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His unique approach to the game, or to the foul line? I need to see this 4 steps plant and heave technique sometime!
Maybe I need to start traveling with Ron C and giving pointers
lolYeah Jason, you said you were in Columbus right?
I'll have to get down there a give a seminar. lol
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Post by: livespive on August 06, 2004, 09:14:51 AM
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Let me tell you, it's not something you will soon forget!
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I did foul with the ball once
Ball tripped the foul light.
This was back when I had a deeper knee bend.
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Post by: livespive on August 06, 2004, 09:33:24 AM
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Yep, and maybe I can get Card to come up as well! Shhh...... don't tell Ken though, he might come and whoop up on us all!
WOW!!!!
That would be one battle royal LMAO
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Post by: JOE FALCO on August 06, 2004, 02:53:14 PM
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Post by: kendog on August 06, 2004, 02:56:40 PM
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Post by: livespive on August 06, 2004, 02:59:42 PM
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Post by: janderson on August 18, 2004, 03:58:15 PM
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Post by: ThongPrincess on August 18, 2004, 06:33:53 PM
143-153-141-167 and my team won all 6 points to keep us out of last place.One of the teams wants me to bowl with them this winter in the same league, so i will be back for the same frustration for 34 more weeks
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Post by: JustinM on August 18, 2004, 07:36:05 PM
I have bowled on A, C, and E.
They were pretty easy except that C breaks down kinda funny.
How are B and D compared to the other three?
Post by: CPA on August 19, 2004, 02:32:18 PM
Are you bowling in the Winter Sport league at Marian?
Post by: kendog on August 19, 2004, 02:33:59 PM
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Post by: Ragnar on August 19, 2004, 02:40:19 PM
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Kendog,
Are you bowling in the Winter Sport league at Marian?
[whine mode]I wish I had such an option. We had 14 (out of around 500 association members) shoe up this summer. We might get the same 14 if we tried this fall. and they call themselves bowlers - faugh!![/whine mode]
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Post by: kendog on August 19, 2004, 02:46:11 PM
quote:quote:
Kendog,
Are you bowling in the Winter Sport league at Marian?
[whine mode]I wish I had such an option. We had 14 (out of around 500 association members) shoe up this summer. We might get the same 14 if we tried this fall. and they call themselves bowlers - faugh!![/whine mode]
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Post by: CPA on August 19, 2004, 02:55:03 PM
The league meeting is August 30th and the first night is September 13th. Last year two guys showed up without a partner and ended up bowling together. Stop in and see if there is somebody to partner with. Didn't you sub in that league last year once or twice?
That league is pretty relaxed and a good time. My buddy and I are bowling again this year. This will be our third year in it.
Post by: kendog on August 19, 2004, 03:01:32 PM
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Post by: janderson on August 19, 2004, 09:10:18 PM
quote:
JAnderson - 480 on Pattern E?
I have bowled on A, C, and E.
They were pretty easy except that C breaks down kinda funny.
How are B and D compared to the other three?
Yep - 480 on E - that's what happens when you miss 12 spares on the night, 8 of which were single-pin spares. Of course, you too can bowl 480 on any of the PBA conditions if you miss that many spares!
I'll PM you some notes on the comparions as I saw them. That's a whole other thread.
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