Post by: Mike James on January 30, 2009, 07:44:00 AM
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on January 30, 2009, 03:58:42 PM
The Democrats like to take from the hard working middle class and give to lazy pieces of worthless flesh who are a waste of space on this earth!!
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Post by: Russell on January 30, 2009, 04:33:50 PM
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Well Bush wanted and got his tax breaks for the rich while in office...so whats the problem???...give 3 percent a large tax break and watch it trickle down....what you still waiting???...lets try more tax breaks for the rich while 97 percent of the people dont spend anything....go repubs !!!
The fact that you are smart enough to boot up a computer and find this site blows me away.
If you believe what you typed up there please go to Canada...please don't continue to dilute our already thin voting population. They would welcome an idiot like you....
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Post by: Skizriz on January 30, 2009, 04:37:59 PM
As long as my rich employer keeps getting richer, he'll keep paying me to work for him.Tax him out of business, and I'm living in a van down by the river.
Just my rambling $.02
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Post by: dechrist on January 30, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
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Well Bush wanted and got his tax breaks for the rich while in office...so whats the problem???...give 3 percent a large tax break and watch it trickle down....what you still waiting???...lets try more tax breaks for the rich while 97 percent of the people dont spend anything....go repubs !!!
So....you want to go to work for a poor man? I think that's what I'm sarcastically hearing here...
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Post by: Mike James on January 31, 2009, 07:31:22 AM
Post by: Russell on January 31, 2009, 10:52:19 AM
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Have any of you felt the trickle down effect that Bush gave to the rich...(3% of the population??)
Do you realize how much of an idiot you look like to those that actually take time to learn facts?
Bush tax cuts were for everyone....3 minutes on google can teach you that.
You're too much of a moron to take that kind of time..it's time you could spend with your circle jerk liberal friends. Now go stick your head back in the sand and leave those of us who remotely understand the world alone.
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Post by: Russell on January 31, 2009, 10:53:08 AM
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Post by: Juggernaut on January 31, 2009, 10:57:22 AM
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Oh yeah...and yes I did feel the effects....I pay less in taxes than I did 9 years ago per dollar. I guess you won't take the time to notice that either...you just expect another handout from King Obama.
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DUDE,
Can't tell if your bashing Bush for his tax cut/trickle down theory or Obama for his handout to the needy theory.
Take a stand and show us who you really are.
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Post by: Russell on January 31, 2009, 11:05:57 AM
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Oh yeah...and yes I did feel the effects....I pay less in taxes than I did 9 years ago per dollar. I guess you won't take the time to notice that either...you just expect another handout from King Obama.
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DUDE,
Can't tell if your bashing Bush for his tax cut/trickle down theory or Obama for his handout to the needy theory.
Take a stand and show us who you really are.
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I am saying that I pay less in taxes now than I did 9 years ago because of the Bush tax cuts...and I am by no means anything more than middle class. People now don't take the time to learn any facts about government or the world around them...and Mike James is the result.
Saying the Bush tax cuts helped 3% of the population is a flat lie.....anyone who does research can find out.
Saying that undoing tax cuts will help the economy is a lie....anyone with a basic understanding of economics knows that.
Saying that the rich don't pay as much in taxes as the middle class is a lie...anyone who spends 3 minutes on google can learn that.
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Post by: Juggernaut on January 31, 2009, 11:13:05 AM
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Oh yeah...and yes I did feel the effects....I pay less in taxes than I did 9 years ago per dollar. I guess you won't take the time to notice that either...you just expect another handout from King Obama.
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DUDE,
Can't tell if your bashing Bush for his tax cut/trickle down theory or Obama for his handout to the needy theory.
Take a stand and show us who you really are.
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I am saying that I pay less in taxes now than I did 9 years ago because of the Bush tax cuts...and I am by no means anything more than middle class. People now don't take the time to learn any facts about government or the world around them...and Mike James is the result.
Saying the Bush tax cuts helped 3% of the population is a flat lie.....anyone who does research can find out.
Saying that undoing tax cuts will help the economy is a lie....anyone with a basic understanding of economics knows that.
Saying that the rich don't pay as much in taxes as the middle class is a lie...anyone who spends 3 minutes on google can learn that.
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O.K., gotcha now. Shooting down Mike James for supporting Obama's handout/bailout economic plan while supporting the economic policies that have lowered your tax bill in the preceding 9 years.
Makes sense to me, but what do I know?
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Post by: Russell on January 31, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
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Oh yeah...and yes I did feel the effects....I pay less in taxes than I did 9 years ago per dollar. I guess you won't take the time to notice that either...you just expect another handout from King Obama.
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DUDE,
Can't tell if your bashing Bush for his tax cut/trickle down theory or Obama for his handout to the needy theory.
Take a stand and show us who you really are.
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I am saying that I pay less in taxes now than I did 9 years ago because of the Bush tax cuts...and I am by no means anything more than middle class. People now don't take the time to learn any facts about government or the world around them...and Mike James is the result.
Saying the Bush tax cuts helped 3% of the population is a flat lie.....anyone who does research can find out.
Saying that undoing tax cuts will help the economy is a lie....anyone with a basic understanding of economics knows that.
Saying that the rich don't pay as much in taxes as the middle class is a lie...anyone who spends 3 minutes on google can learn that.
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O.K., gotcha now. Shooting down Mike James for supporting Obama's handout/bailout economic plan while supporting the economic policies that have lowered your tax bill in the preceding 9 years.
Makes sense to me, but what do I know?
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If that is what you get after reading this thread then I'm not sure what you know. Mike James is slamming Repubs for only giving tax breaks to the rich....I said he's an idiot and a liar.
I didn't say I supported anyone's economic policy, only that saying Bush's tax cuts didn't help everyone isn't true.
So...I'm not exactly sure where you got that from...but okay
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Post by: nutsforbowling on February 01, 2009, 01:43:39 AM
Geesh, this is why we need better health care in this country, so the lunies don't get to come out as often.
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Post by: srlunatic on February 01, 2009, 01:48:05 AM
8 years of tax cuts for the rich and business...
And where are all the jobs that would have been created by this??
Last week 100,000 jobs lost...
Trickle down doesn't work. If you have everything and I give you more money what are you going to do with it? Put it away for a rainy day.
The problem is that middle america isn't spending. They don't have the extra money to do so due to whatever reason (bad investing, slow growth of wages, etc).
So need to get money to the people who will buy, who will spend it...that is they key to getting the economy on the turn.
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Post by: jd1319 on February 01, 2009, 03:53:20 AM
Seriously, Obama's stimulus plans calls for hundreds of millions of dollars for condems. That pretty much says what his plan is going to do to all of us in the long run.
Post by: srlunatic on February 01, 2009, 04:34:28 AM
If this was true why are we losing jobs at a near record rate??
Investments into financial markets do not create jobs as we have seen.
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Post by: jd1319 on February 01, 2009, 07:07:04 AM
Why are we losing jobs by the thousands? Because our idiotic government, decided everybody should be able to own a home even if they couldn't afford it. They strongly encouraged banks to give out loans to those that didn't qualify under previous standards, and then as Mortgage rates changed, those unqualified home owners couldn't pay their mortgages, and without that money, the credit market dried up. Billions and billions of investor dollars lost due to the government meddling in the housing market. As banks collapsed because of it, those rich people lost an awful lot of money, and no longer have it available to invest in other areas, so they are unable to stem the tide.
Post by: johns811 on February 01, 2009, 07:18:48 AM
Post by: leftyinsnellville on February 01, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
Democrats don't necessarily rob from the middle class to pay poor people. Welfare underwent a massive restructuring under the Clinton Administration which greatly limits the amounts and length that welfare is paid. Although we still have welfare, it doesn't account for a huge part of the federal budget.
Believe it or not, both parties can have some good ideas at times. Unfortunately neither party is willing to address the fact that our tax structure is outdated, expensive, and does not work to achieve our goals.
A combination of a value added tax and sales taxes can fully fund all government programs, thus eliminating income taxes, capital gains taxes, estate taxes, and possibly property taxes (though I doubt they'll ever let go of that one). No one could cheat on their taxes, everyone would pay an equal rate, foreign corporations would pay the same in taxes as domestic corporations, and even the IRS would be disbanded.
It's all so simple it makes my head spin, but we can't seem to get it through our thick heads to elect only those politicians who promise to revamp the tax system, and to only re-elect those politicians who follow through with that promise.
Post by: KDawg77 on February 01, 2009, 08:36:49 AM
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Post by: mrfish on February 01, 2009, 09:14:04 AM
I am very fearful where we are heading right now. President Osama has way too many flaming liberals on his side and can pretty much force anything through that he wants to.
Hopefully I am wrong and this crap helps, but I really think we are in for a long period of suffering in this country.
To get to the topic at hand, anyone who wants to know why this economy is so bad should go back to the Clinton years and investigate exactly who forced the banks to lend money to people who couldn't afford it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were not President Bush's children, but unfortunately President Clinton's illegitimate children who turned our economy upside down.
Post by: on February 01, 2009, 01:08:56 PM
Heaven forbid someone works hard, makes good choices and becomes successful.
It's what keeps this Country moving forward. Socialism stunts the growth of a Nation. If I don't have to do anything special, or work harder to make any more or less money then the next guy I wont, and that's when we stop progress dead in it's tracks.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on February 01, 2009, 01:37:39 PM
So Larry...brand new id but not Mike James...you ARE a Socialist?
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Post by: srlunatic on February 01, 2009, 02:02:31 PM
Since we have been doing the Tax Cuts for the Wealthy the last 8 years..which according to your wisdom will trickle down and help the economy be strong and robust...
Why then are we in this economic crisis?
Who were the ones playing with the Derivative Games?? Or another name Structured Investment Vehicle??
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/09/the-role-of-str.html
Just wondering......
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Post by: Russell on February 01, 2009, 07:05:39 PM
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To my Trickle Down Voodoo Economic Friends...
Since we have been doing the Tax Cuts for the Wealthy the last 8 years..which according to your wisdom will trickle down and help the economy be strong and robust...
Why then are we in this economic crisis?
Who were the ones playing with the Derivative Games?? Or another name Structured Investment Vehicle??
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/09/the-role-of-str.html
Just wondering......
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You're an idiot...that's all I can say...how many times can we say "everyone got a tax break" and you keep saying "tax breaks for the rich"?
Someone who claims to be as well read as you do can't be this blind to a simple fact.
Seriously?....you represent the "intelligent left"..?
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on February 01, 2009, 07:36:07 PM
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