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michael.willis9

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Need help learning to read a lane oil chart
« on: February 01, 2019, 12:39:56 AM »
So as stated before, I’ll be bowling in a sport shot competition between quite a few different navy bases. I did good going in blind against the challenge layout for tryouts, we weren’t allowed to be notified of the pattern, but we will be notified in advance of the layout for each week.

But then I realized one major issue, other than the pattern, I don’t actually know what I’m looking at when it comes to the chart. Like what is the difference between oil going forward and going back?  But I don’t want to be the guy that just asks for how to shoot against a pattern every week. I want to figure out the specific patterns for myself but would at least like to understand the chart and not stare at it like it’s spanish

 

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Re: Need help learning to read a lane oil chart
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2019, 08:12:25 AM »
A good place to start is Kegel's website.  There is a lot of good information in their "library" area. 

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Re: Need help learning to read a lane oil chart
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2019, 09:28:22 AM »
Dont worry sbout things like reverse oil.  Key things are length of the buff, and overall volume of oil.  O also like to look at how many loads are spread 2 to 2 board.  This sometimes gives me a better picture of how flat the pattern is.   Most patterns unless they are longer than 42 feet or shorter than 38 feet are going to play more about how the pattern transitions, and will open up inside

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Re: Need help learning to read a lane oil chart
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2019, 12:34:24 PM »
Dont worry sbout things like reverse oil.  Key things are length of the buff, and overall volume of oil.  O also like to look at how many loads are spread 2 to 2 board.  This sometimes gives me a better picture of how flat the pattern is.   Most patterns unless they are longer than 42 feet or shorter than 38 feet are going to play more about how the pattern transitions, and will open up inside

i appreciate the help but its still spanish to me man.  i think i may just lay out a whole shit ton of questions and let people answer them as they please.  and maybe also add stuff because i'm probably going to miss something that is important that i don't think is.

Why is there a difference between forward and reverse oil?  In my head, oil is liquid so its going to lay flat regardless of which way it gets put on, yet they distinguish? maybe its the machine can't handle it all on one trip... but then why is there overlap as opposed to just doing it all at once?

What exactly is the buff zone?

also just figuring out what a normal amount of oil is and what a heavy amount is.  the more i stare, the more some makes sense to me

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Re: Need help learning to read a lane oil chart
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2019, 05:40:05 PM »
First you need to understand how the lane machine works to understand the load charts. 

Go to bowl.com and they have the graphs for the open championship for 2013,14,15, &16 in 2d and 3d.  Maybe seeing these will help.

http://www.kegel.net/tech-tips-tricks/2016/4/18/10-frequently-asked-questions-about-conditioning-lanes

http://www.kegel.net/wpa/2016/2/24/5-must-know-things-about-oil-pattern-taper

http://www.kegel.net/wpa/2016/1/5/the-truth-about-tournament-oil-patterns-and-conversions

   

Honestly, the answers you are looking for are just to long to type out.

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Re: Need help learning to read a lane oil chart
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2019, 11:11:43 AM »
To be honest, length and amount of oil are really the key contributors you have to worry about, and the rest is how you throw it. The edge of the pattern is somewhat important, but you soon realize a pattern almost never plays as you think it should. If there's barely any oil polish your stuff up and bring some weaker equipment. If theres a ton of oil, put surface on it and bring stronger equipment, et cetera et cetera. The length is a little more complicated, and thats on how you throw it and you have to learn what stuff rolls best on what for you.


There are so many variables you will never know (topography of the lanes, how the pattern breaks down, what other bowlers are on it) that you just wont know and theres really no way (not even the ebonite ball drilling simulator) that can give you the 100% matched ball or line for the occasion. The gurus of pattern design are making these patterns to not only have an initial challenge, but break down certain ways too, and although interesting, its not going to help you bowl.

Your best bet is to bring some benchmark balls (like a hyroad or GB3 or a weaker solid) and just see how they read. I mean look at the pros, they literally get their patterns dyed on the lane and yet they are still bringing 25 balls. Why? because its not about what you see on that paper, its about what you see at that exact moment. I know pros who literally study that stuff and end up not liking any of the 20 balls they brought to a tournament.

Your idea of going in blind is honestly not a bad strategy, because the people who can read their balls and read the lanes will almost always come out on top, and that's how it should be. Sure, will someone end up pulling the lottery ticket and having the stars align with the best ball for the occasion, but they didn't do that because they knew how the lane was buffed.

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Re: Need help learning to read a lane oil chart
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2019, 02:40:10 PM »
To be honest, length and amount of oil are really the key contributors you have to worry about, and the rest is how you throw it. The edge of the pattern is somewhat important, but you soon realize a pattern almost never plays as you think it should. If there's barely any oil polish your stuff up and bring some weaker equipment. If theres a ton of oil, put surface on it and bring stronger equipment, et cetera et cetera. The length is a little more complicated, and thats on how you throw it and you have to learn what stuff rolls best on what for you.


There are so many variables you will never know (topography of the lanes, how the pattern breaks down, what other bowlers are on it) that you just wont know and theres really no way (not even the ebonite ball drilling simulator) that can give you the 100% matched ball or line for the occasion. The gurus of pattern design are making these patterns to not only have an initial challenge, but break down certain ways too, and although interesting, its not going to help you bowl.

Your best bet is to bring some benchmark balls (like a hyroad or GB3 or a weaker solid) and just see how they read. I mean look at the pros, they literally get their patterns dyed on the lane and yet they are still bringing 25 balls. Why? because its not about what you see on that paper, its about what you see at that exact moment. I know pros who literally study that stuff and end up not liking any of the 20 balls they brought to a tournament.

Your idea of going in blind is honestly not a bad strategy, because the people who can read their balls and read the lanes will almost always come out on top, and that's how it should be. Sure, will someone end up pulling the lottery ticket and having the stars align with the best ball for the occasion, but they didn't do that because they knew how the lane was buffed.

Yeah I definitely plan on having surface on everything.

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No Rules Pearl (1500)
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Hyroad Live (oob but may take it to 4000)
After Dark Pearl (oob and staying that way, it’s my one ball I need for my THS)

And I’m looking at a honey badger claw so I can have a big assym ball

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Re: Need help learning to read a lane oil chart
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2019, 06:54:57 PM »
Here you might take a look at my Lane Graph & Oil Pattern Information Cheat Sheet
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