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tennispro11_7

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Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« on: February 10, 2013, 12:07:19 PM »
So last month I took my Ulti-Max in for a full resurfacing.  The ball has been great to me but was needing some work after how much I've used it.  Since my pro shop guy resurfaced it, the ball isn't hooking at all.  It is normally the first ball out of my bag at league, but all 3 times I've tried using it since the resurfacing I've had to put it away during practice or early in the first game.  Any idea what the issue may be?  My pro shop guy is excellent, and he had notes to resurface back to OOB surface as I wanted.

Thanks for any ideas

 

lifted rillo

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2013, 12:16:19 PM »
The coverstock might be oil-soaked and need an extraction. How often do you clean the ball? Also, the ball may be burning up now that the track isn't there.

tennispro11_7

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2013, 12:18:37 PM »
I give the ball a bath every 30 games and have been able to get the oil out of it pretty well.  I also clean it after every use.  As far as the track-you are right there is no longer a track as this was a complete resurfacing.

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2013, 12:33:15 PM »
First off... factory surfaces are a pain in the @$$ to replicate.

Sounds like it was over polished... Don't be afraid to take 4000 abralon or a gold (~2000 grit) scotchbrite pad to it to get more bite.

1000 and polish has a very similar average Ra number to 2000 grit.  4000 grit is minutely rougher than 2000 w/polish.

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2013, 01:15:44 PM »
The Ulti-Max finish is a little different from most other Brunswick balls:
500 & 1,500 Siaair Micro Pad; Rough Buff Finish.

If he used polish instead of Rough Buff or if his pad were too used, there's any number of things that he could have done, in addition to the ball possibly needing an oil extraction. Impossible to say from this "distance". It's also possible that the house changed the oil pattern?

Have you taken it back to him and told him what is happening?
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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2013, 01:36:55 PM »

Without seeing the ball roll at all, I'd suggest having him take it back down to the 500 micro pad, then skip directly to the Rough Buff.  Sometimes a shop will get the base grit (500) then spend too much time on the second stage (1500) thus "erasing" somewhat the effect of the base grit.

Rough Buff is a strong compound that will smooth out some of the "teeth" put there by the 500 and allow it to push to the mid-lane and finish.  Let us know what you do.


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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 01:44:27 PM »
The Ulti-Max finish is a little different from most other Brunswick balls:
500 & 1,500 Siaair Micro Pad; Rough Buff Finish.

If he used polish instead of Rough Buff or if his pad were too used, there's any number of things that he could have done, in addition to the ball possibly needing an oil extraction. Impossible to say from this "distance". It's also possible that the house changed the oil pattern?

Have you taken it back to him and told him what is happening?

I didn't want to bring it back right away until I used it a few times, but this past Thursday was the third time I had problems with the reaction, so I plan on dropping by his shop in the next few days

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 03:34:33 PM »
I'm having the same issue with my pearl panther. I took it to a revivor oven and hasn't been the same since

Steven

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 03:35:04 PM »
To the points made here, get your own spinner and do your own surface work. It's a relatively small investment and you don't have to wonder what someone else might have done.

charlest

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 03:57:07 PM »
I'm having the same issue with my pearl panther. I took it to a revivor oven and hasn't been the same since

The problem's not the over, but the surface.
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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 04:23:31 PM »
I have my own spinner and do the adjustments, but after I used the oven and made the surface changes no matter what I did the ball was still dead

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2013, 05:15:59 PM »
I have my own spinner and do the adjustments, but after I used the oven and made the surface changes no matter what I did the ball was still dead


It's hard to say with these new coverstock formulations what extended exposure to heat will do. For some it might be OK -- for others, not so good. I've had good experience using Motiv Scuff as an oil extraction compound. It's simple and cost effective. Look into it as an alternative.

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 05:25:28 PM »
How many games do you have on the ball since resurfacing? I'd allow 3-6 games on the ball before making any adjustments. Not just a few shots here and there, but at least 30 to 72 frames.
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tennispro11_7

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2013, 05:38:58 PM »
How many games do you have on the ball since resurfacing? I'd allow 3-6 games on the ball before making any adjustments. Not just a few shots here and there, but at least 30 to 72 frames.

I would say I have roughly about 4 full games on there and a bunch of practice shots too.

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Re: Resurfacing: Any of you have this problem?
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2013, 06:42:07 PM »
Then Id go with Charlest suggestion of oil extraction or a slight change of 500 + polish
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