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lilpossum1

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resurfacing question
« on: October 28, 2013, 04:39:19 PM »
When reading about surfaces of bowling balls, I have noticed that not all bowling balls at a certain final grit have the same "under grits." Like 500, 4000 and 500, 1000, 2000,  4000. What is the purpose of this? Also, what are the differences in siaair, abralon, and scotchbrite pads? Advantages and disadvantages please?
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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 10:28:06 AM »
The difference in using 500, 4000 to 500, 1000, 2000, 4000 will be a smoother transition on the lane with the added underlying surfaces. 500 is a good base for any surface because it will have more grip on the lane. Most manufacturers are using 500, 4000 or 500, polish on a solid coverstock ball to give it the highest hook potential. By using the surface in steps, it creates smaller peaks and valleys microscopically which doesn't allow the ball to grip the lane as hard. The advantage to going up is to create a smoother reaction.

Abralon, Siaair, and Scotchbrite pads all use a different abrasive but use the same scale for measuring grit, ie 500, 1000, 2000, 4000. Siaair pads last longer than the Abralon pads. Most are best used with a ball spinner to get even sanding lines.

Here is a video from Jayhawk that shows the differences of surface changes to a bowling ball:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUqh4-oD6yQ&feature=share&list=TLPHt_EpALL884xMNinLPspHr7RrVrXoA9
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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 11:50:43 AM »
Side tracking a little...but speaking of pads...

I've used all these pads mentioned. I prefer Siaair pads (with a Vortex spinner). And the last several years, I got my Siaair pads at Grizzly.com. Or Ebay too.

nowadays I'm not sure where people get them (siaair) that is cheaper - it's been almost 2 years or so since I purchased any newer pads from them.
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lilpossum1

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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 03:19:05 PM »
So 500, 4000 will be smoother and stronger than 500, 1000, 2000, 4000? What is the difference between 500, 4000 and 500+polish?
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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2013, 03:22:57 PM »
the 500 under the 4000 will allow the ball to pick up the lane slightly earlier than if you went 500-(insert grit or 2)-4000.

With 500+polish, the polish will push the ball through the heads mostly, but then it will still pick up slightly earlier downlane
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lilpossum1

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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2013, 03:59:39 PM »
500+ polish sounds like a winning surface for my 811 c/t which has been burning up lately
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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2013, 04:22:21 PM »
Quote from: lilpossum1 on October 29, 2013, 03:59:39 PM
500+ polish sounds like a winning surface for my 811 c/t which has been burning up lately

Do you just have it at box finish now? How many games on the current surface?
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lilpossum1

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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 05:00:47 PM »
It is at box still will probably 60+ games on it easily. it is still going strong at the house with wetter synthetic lanes,  which is why I have neglected my usual maintenence. I brought out my critical theory on Sunday and sanded it to 4000 with heavy polish and it had much much better carry in the house where I am having trouble with my 811 c/t (and every other ball really)
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SVstar34

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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2013, 06:49:45 PM »
Why change the 811 if the Critical works?
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lilpossum1

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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2013, 07:14:12 PM »
The 811 doesn't work as well as I like. it has been a "meh" ball for me since I had it drilled. when it works for me, it is fantastic. it just doesn't work for me all the time. I have only scored well with it in one house, but that is my highest average house where any ball will work for me. I could almost throw a heavy casserole dish down the lane and hit average there. Slight exageration, but you catch my drift. I am looking for a surface to bring it to life for me. Redrilling is not an option as the only pro shop I trust is an hour and a half a way, and if I go see him, I will just buy a new ball.
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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2013, 08:57:38 PM »
with 60 games on the OOB, a fresh surface on it could help bring it back to life. For strong core/cover balls, I'd say 500-1000-light coat of polish is a good place to start to start
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lilpossum1

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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2013, 09:53:46 PM »
Sounds like a good plan!
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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 06:09:42 AM »
Just a thought: I have a ball that wasn't reacting the way I thought it ought to, certainly not like the mfg and reviews said. Multiple surfacing options didn't help, so I re-drilled with a different layout and had the ball returned to OOB. More surface tweakings later, I was still disappointed and looking for reasons. My exasperated (and certified) pro-shop guy finally gave up and said, "Sometimes the bowler and the ball just don't match up." I set the ball aside for a year. Then I mentioned all this to another bowler in a casual conversation, and she convinced me none of this made any sense.

It turned out THIS BALL HAD NEVER BEEN BALANCED CORRECTLY. Today, it's my most trusted, most predictable, most appreciated league ball. GEESCH!

Recommendation: If you're in the Denver area, try John Fisher's Bowler's Garage at Crown Lanes, 720-273-8469.
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lilpossum1

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Re: resurfacing question
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 07:13:20 AM »
I go to Tom in west west Lafayette, Indiana. he is as good as anyone, so I am sure that is not the case
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