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xrayjay

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Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« on: March 12, 2014, 12:21:43 PM »
We've all heard about maxi bob, rash, Belmo, and others when it comes to RPM's.... what about ND, WRW, BV, Carolyn Ballard, etc.....what are their rev rates?

Also, can someone below 275 rpm be successful in today's PBA? I mean these people before mentioned, all have multiple titles. But, there are very few "new strokers" coming up nowadays. Will these "strokers" be found only in leagues?

Plus, IMHO, several ball companies in the future (except Storm) would rather have the power players/crankers throwing their ball because it's more "awsome" to see the big hooker. (no, not the ones here on Stockton BLVD.) Instead of the down and in pure stroker player.
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2014, 12:55:09 PM »
Most stokers tend to be around 275 up to 325rpm, I know Duke is right around 300rpm. Personally I believe that strokers have the best style of bowling due to their consistency and predictability. At my closest lanes I am starting to see more and more "power players", but the stoker will never die out.
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2014, 01:28:22 PM »
Strokers are here to stay, but in the future, I think there'll be less of them on TV. I see kids, including mine, want to throw like Belmo. well, at least my kid puts two finger in :D
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2014, 01:45:05 PM »
It's due to the excess of higher rev rates that make it difficult for the lower rev rates, i.e. what happens to the front part of the lane creating extreme angles
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2014, 01:56:18 PM »
Quote from: xrayjay on March 12, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
...less of them on TV...


That seems to apply to all bowling styles.  ;D Just sayin...
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2014, 02:01:48 PM »
Quote from: milorafferty on March 12, 2014, 01:56:18 PM
Quote from: xrayjay on March 12, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
...less of them on TV...


hahaha....true

That seems to apply to all bowling styles.  ;D Just sayin...
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2014, 02:06:23 PM »
Quote from: JustRico on March 12, 2014, 01:45:05 PM
It's due to the excess of higher rev rates that make it difficult for the lower rev rates, i.e. what happens to the front part of the lane creating extreme angles

true too
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2014, 02:25:36 PM »
It has less to do with ability and more about limitations created by the playing field
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2014, 03:31:49 PM »
Quote from: JustRico on March 12, 2014, 02:25:36 PM
It has less to do with ability and more about limitations created by the playing field

This....

In longer formats, the strokers have no where to go.  They don't have the rotation/revs to move in deep and carry.  The ones that can maintain carry the longest will have the most success.  That is why you see so many high rev bowlers doing so well now.

If the condition had more head oil so the strokers could stay outside longer, you would see more of them on TV.
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2014, 06:38:39 PM »
Strokers aren't going anywhere, but I agree with the statement that they will be limited in longer format tournaments where the big handed guys can chew a hole in the pattern where the straighter guys get stuck with what's left.

Not everybody can rip it with one or two hands, so they will always be there.  Also, there are conditions where straight is always better.

As far as tournaments go, strokers are going to be like lefties.  Either they have something or they shouldn't have walked in the door.

To expand on this topic....what does this mean for tweeners?
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2014, 01:59:01 PM »
Tweeners, aren't they
Quote from: Mongo on March 12, 2014, 06:38:39 PM


To expand on this topic....what does this mean for tweeners?


Tweener types are the most Versatile of the group. Most can deal with a lot of situations they face. I think it pays to be a tweener lol
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 02:22:54 PM »
Tweeners tend to get caught one way or another usually in the wrong way...not enough revs or too much speed thus either the ball reading too early or not at all
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2014, 03:06:28 PM »
Quote from: JustRico on March 13, 2014, 02:22:54 PM
Tweeners tend to get caught one way or another usually in the wrong way...not enough revs or too much speed thus either the ball reading too early or not at all

Id consider myself a tweener and thats exactly what happens to me.

Ball either jumps off the spot or pushes straight through the breakpoint. Hard to find an in between.

Noticed it last night when my pair had a PBA tour player and 4 crankers on it. That'll kill a pair real quick.
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 03:53:27 PM »
Quote from: JustRico on March 13, 2014, 02:22:54 PM
Tweeners tend to get caught one way or another usually in the wrong way...not enough revs or too much speed thus either the ball reading too early or not at all

I'm a borderline tweener (getting old) and I'm afraid that the game is going to go to extremes.  As a tweener, you'll always have to play your B game, either trying to hit/swing it more than you're comfortable doing or fighting your release playing straight up the lane.

I'm actually better and knuckle/pointing it than I am swinging the lane.  I'll be interested to see how the first few tournaments go later this year.

One good thing is that I feel like I know equipment well enough to counteract some of it, but won't know until I know.
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Re: Rev rate of the PBA strokers.....??? (multi question post)
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2014, 11:26:12 AM »
Look at Walter Ray.

At South Point he can barely cause a ripple.  Comes the USBC masters he is incredible.

I believe just like in Golf there are horses for courses and courses for horses!

Southpoint seems to like guys that can cover some boards.  I wouldn't call Wes Mallott a cranker.  Other houses love straighter is better.

I think the disappearance of the stroker is only caused by the consolidation of the tour schedule with so much of it happening at Las Vegas Southpoint!

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