Post by: Necromancer on January 22, 2009, 01:47:07 AM
With shoes, you can go on NikeID and create your own shoe (colors, specs, initials, etc.). With computers, you can custom built your entire system from scratch by picking out the parts on a site like Newegg.com. With clothes, you can pretty much wear anything and any combination in the world. With houses, you can have a builder custom built your house from scratch. With cars, you can go online, pick what features you want and have it built for you and sent within a month. ARE YOU THINKING WHAT I'm THINKING????!
With bowling balls, you can only buy what is there with exception to pin placement, top weight, and other minor details that vary from company to company.
MY IDEA:
-Create a company that has the patents/rights to use a similar core and coverstock for all the greatest bowling balls ever made. The more the better. (Don't worry we aren't talking about Elite here hehe - KEEP READING!)
-Now you have a site or company that allows you to mix and match cores and coverstocks!!!
-Basically you go online, and you can pick any core from the last 20 years or so.
-Then you can pick any coverstock in the last 20 years.
-You are then able to desire a range of pin placement for that ball.
-As long as the ball meets the specs, you are good to go!
-At checkout, the ball will ask you what finish you want (sanded, polished, grit)
-And voila, your dream ball has arrived! Imagine for example having the V2 core with a C300 SuperFlex coverstock! The possibilities are endless!
Now you ask price? Well just like custom cars, houses, SHOES... there will be a premium.
However you are getting a 1 of a kind ball! I would expect balls sales of $300-500 would be reasonable.
Just imagine putting your dream combos together across different manufacturers during different time periods! Of course, the cores and coverstocks would be tweeked a little to meet patent laws and such but it is already done in the electronic industry.
DISCUSS!!!
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Post by: Oskuposer on January 22, 2009, 09:49:26 AM
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Post by: Necromancer on January 22, 2009, 09:51:26 AM
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Warranty? Guarantee? Performance? NOT WORTH IT
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Well the ball will have a 3 month warranty. There can't be any guarantees of anything because everything is created by the customer. That is the catch. Just like in other fields, the choice is up to the customer. There is no warranty if you go to NikeID and create a shoe with pink/purple design and have the back of the shoe with "Gay" on it and are given the promise you won't get beat up or harrassed.
Post by: NoseofRI on January 22, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
GREAT IDEA /sarcasm
Post by: Dan Belcher on January 22, 2009, 09:54:50 AM
Post by: bowlerdawg on January 22, 2009, 09:55:17 AM
so all the planning and execution of said ball would probably end up costing more than advertised, and i don't think sales would be very good.
once you get said bowlers dream combo, then he's going to be set for a while.
still a cool idea
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Post by: noturcuzin on January 22, 2009, 09:58:01 AM
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Post by: Oskuposer on January 22, 2009, 10:00:07 AM
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Post by: los2003 on January 22, 2009, 10:11:27 AM
Post by: Necromancer on January 22, 2009, 10:16:49 AM
-Bowling companies get a share in the sales (depends on their popularity in choice - if the V2 core gets chosen more than a Inferno core, then Ebonite gets more money)
-This would eliminate the hassle of getting patents or making look-alike cores/coverstocks
-Yes it would be a niche market - but so is custom shoes. NikeID's cost around $100 for a shoe that otherwise would cost $50. So 2x markup for customization. Same for bowling balls. A retail ball of $250 would be about $500.
-Obviously, you can save money and get a used custom ball from someone on here, ebay, etc.
-Ball names would be yours but the companies used for core and coverstock would also be listed on the ball. Example V2 and C300 SuperFlex: V2(Ebo)/SuperFlex(C) would be etched near the serial number.
-There would be an area where you can place any logo, name, design you want. So for my ball if I wanted to call it "NECROMENTUM" then it would be placed on the ball area designated off and a picture of my face would be there underneath hehe.
Post by: another300 on January 22, 2009, 10:25:29 AM
For $250-$300 I would "build my own ball".
Great idea but not cost efficient.
Post by: KingofKings696 on January 22, 2009, 10:28:05 AM
Post by: leftyinsnellville on January 22, 2009, 10:37:44 AM
If you can add custom aromas, like with Storm balls, I'd have this one smell like money!
I'd call it Fifth Power!
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Post by: los2003 on January 22, 2009, 10:44:08 AM
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My dream ball would be 900 Global's S75 coverstock around Columbia 300's ARC core.
If you can add custom aromas, like with Storm balls, I'd have this one smell like money!
I'd call it Fifth Power!
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Post by: another300 on January 22, 2009, 10:49:56 AM
Post by: los2003 on January 22, 2009, 10:54:41 AM
Post by: stopncrank on January 22, 2009, 12:41:10 PM
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Post by: JoeBowler on January 22, 2009, 12:51:15 PM
The mulitude of cores and coverstocks that would have to be on hand would be be enomourus. Inventory cost would eat you up.
Batchs of one run. setup cost would be great.
The ball would probably cost $400 to $500.
Bowlers are cheap and unwilling to pay that. Even if it was $250 wholesale the volume would be to low.
Post by: The Bowlers Edge 2 on January 22, 2009, 12:54:26 PM
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Post by: n00dlejester on January 22, 2009, 12:58:09 PM
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or how about just custom options within each ball company, example: call up storm and say you want a paradigm core with the old curelyon coverstock. or call brunswick and ask if you can get the inferno core with powerkoil 18 cover? how difficult would that be for ball companies? i've always wished for an assymetric core with a tame cover like curelyon from storm or something along those lines, maybe even assymetric core with urethane cover. what do you guys think?
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Post by: Badger856 on January 22, 2009, 01:05:28 PM
Post by: DP3 on January 22, 2009, 01:10:07 PM
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Post by: Necromancer on January 22, 2009, 01:19:41 PM
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Typical bowler mentality. 200 balls on the market that all can be used on the THS, drilling options that give 1 ball 5 or 6 different looks, and still not satisfied with what's out there. No wonder the companies are cranking out new stuff faster than ever.
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10's of thousands of shoes on the market yet NikeID as well as other companies allow you to create your own shoe from scratch.
100's of different cars to choose from and yet people still order their own cars based on their own standards (like myself in 2005).
1,000,000's of houses, yet people still choose to design and build their own house.
2009 is the year of personalization. Imagine if tattoos were locked in standard drawings, how less popular they would be.
Post by: dechrist on January 22, 2009, 01:32:53 PM
Post by: DP3 on January 22, 2009, 02:09:19 PM
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Typical bowler mentality. 200 balls on the market that all can be used on the THS, drilling options that give 1 ball 5 or 6 different looks, and still not satisfied with what's out there. No wonder the companies are cranking out new stuff faster than ever.
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10's of thousands of shoes on the market yet NikeID as well as other companies allow you to create your own shoe from scratch.
100's of different cars to choose from and yet people still order their own cars based on their own standards (like myself in 2005).
1,000,000's of houses, yet people still choose to design and build their own house.
2009 is the year of personalization. Imagine if tattoos were locked in standard drawings, how less popular they would be.
My bad, I forgot this was another thread where we all should be converting to your McDonalds apple pie sized box of thinking where every small pipe dream of yours is an original and groundbreaking experience where no one on earth could possibly think of such a novel idea but you.
Where do I get my ticket for the wagon?
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Post by: NoseofRI on January 22, 2009, 02:12:51 PM
And just for an example for some of you that may not realize this: Brunswick still uses the same cover and core from the Teal Rhino and Danger Zone. Along with Ebonite wrapping the V2 Core with the One cover stock.
Looks like they already beat you to this idea Necro, but thanks for playing.
Post by: DP3 on January 22, 2009, 02:16:06 PM
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on January 22, 2009, 02:16:46 PM
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Post by: NoseofRI on January 22, 2009, 02:18:00 PM
Post by: DP3 on January 22, 2009, 02:21:03 PM
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I love you guys, but some of you get your undies in a bunch awfully quickly during coversations like these. Look, obviously, there is a laundry list of factors that likely will keep something like this from ever happening. Still, it's kind of a fun idea for ball junkies to think of in their heads. No harm in that, right?
It's a fun idea riddled with Necro's charming ability to make otherwise rational people want to kick puppies everytime he writes something.
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on January 22, 2009, 02:36:54 PM
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Post by: gsback on January 22, 2009, 03:03:57 PM
What this means is that first person who wasted.....oh let's say $500....for his/her dream ball is going to look for someone to blame when the ball doesn't perform the way he/she thinks it was going to!!
Let's see.....that person will go back to the Pro Shop first....because surely it must be the driller fault. The driller won't take credit for a bad drill....so it must be the ball manufacturer's fault. The ball manufacturer will remind the customer that he/she signed a waiver against a suit should the ball not perform the way he/she thought it would.
So.......someone has to pay!! Looks like it might be Necromancer, if he was the one who actually went forward with an idea of this type!!
Too much thought and control put into the publics' hand....especially when they are blame and sue happy....is not a good thing!!
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Post by: strikealot on January 22, 2009, 03:13:28 PM
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I love you guys, but some of you get your undies in a bunch awfully quickly during coversations like these. Look, obviously, there is a laundry list of factors that likely will keep something like this from ever happening. Still, it's kind of a fun idea for ball junkies to think of in their heads. No harm in that, right?
It's a fun idea riddled with Necro's charming ability to make otherwise rational people want to kick puppies everytime he writes something.
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great, now my puppy has bruised ribs....and would this increase my tourny ave?
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Post by: strikealot on January 22, 2009, 03:46:30 PM
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Post by: Necromancer on January 22, 2009, 06:58:07 PM
Post by: nd300 on January 22, 2009, 07:56:08 PM
1. Great idea,but the logistics are impossible to overcome. Say Ebonite tried this idea with 5 cores from Ebonite,Hammer, Track and Dynothane.You now have 20 core choices.
2.Now throw in 20 cover choices.That's 400 possible combinations.
There's simply no way to guarantee that you're getting the core/cover combination that you ordered,no matter how hard you stress quality.Mistakes happen.Who is on the short end of the stick.Your company or the pro shop that ordered and drilled the ball?? What about the customer who's now out another week or more getting a replacement ball??
And what about shipping costs,unless included in the ball price??? What about return/warrranty shipping????
Conceivably,a great idea with all the jobs you'd create in an area that could use the economic base,which in today's environment,could be Anywhere,USA.
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Post by: whin-o on January 23, 2009, 09:01:09 AM
Great ideas just never seem to work,do they?
Oh well it's naptime,good day.
Post by: batbowler on January 23, 2009, 09:10:05 AM
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