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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: northface28 on November 01, 2013, 10:59:17 PM
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Anyone hear about the lane oil Brunswick has concocted? Has blue dye in it so you can see it on the lane.
Thoughts?
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Seems like after the lanes start breaking down, in combinations with the lights/center lights, it might get hard to look at your target if it's still within the pattern. My only prediction is more Sean Rash balks.
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Sounds like they are trying to make it easier than it already is.
Don't think I will be a fan of this.
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its good to learn transition and carry down ect
but how are they gona completely get rid of it once you wanna stop using it
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Strip the lanes
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Sounds like they are trying to make it easier than it already is.
Don't think I will be a fan of this.
Right now its just on the TV shows for the PBA. Don't think you have to worry about this showing up in league since it cost more than the regular lane oil.
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Riggs has a good blog on this:
http://11thframe.com/news/article/6183
I like the idea. Whether or not it would would on a daily basis would be the question. It would solve the age old complainer that the lane man was screwing with the shot.
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It would be very interesting and informative to see transitions. Then I could better visualize when it's not there. I'd be willing to pay extra for the experience.
Brunswick would never dare to put it down for their typical leagues, though. The only fresh lanes at the two B-Zones near me are in the mornings. Then just overlays. So, depending upon usage, the night leagues are often competing on junk. If the bowlers could actually see the oiling inconsistencies, I wonder what their reaction would be?
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It would be very interesting and informative to see transitions. Then I could better visualize when it's not there. I'd be willing to pay extra for the experience.
Brunswick would never dare to put it down for their typical leagues, though. The only fresh lanes at the two B-Zones near me are in the mornings. Then just overlays. So, depending upon usage, the night leagues are often competing on junk. If the bowlers could actually see the oiling inconsistencies, I wonder what their reaction would be?
Colorado I like your point. Would league bowlers start to complain about conditions before they even started bowling. In my center there are maybe 5 guys that have any clue about oil, transition, or topography. That being said it doesnt stop people from bitching
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It makes the most sense for PBA shows and other high-level competition. Like Riggs says, novice viewers see a PBA pro grind out a 210 on TV, and they think their local house hero who averages 225 is a better bowler. They have no idea how different the playing environments are. I am not saying the colored oil will eliminate all of that ignorance, but it could be a start.
For the people who say it's going to make things too easy, I think you are off base. Golfers are able to see OB, traps, water, etc, but they still hit it into those hazards from time to time, right? There is only a small percentage of bowlers who are good enough to hit exactly what thy wan to hit shot after shot, and those guys/gals will be at the tip anyhow. Seeing the oil isn't going to help an ordinary hack like me, and I doubt it will truly help most others like me.
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I wonder how different it is than just putting regular dye in the lane oil already being used? Would it not serve the same purpose?
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Sounds like they are trying to make it easier than it already is.
Don't think I will be a fan of this.
Right now its just on the TV shows for the PBA. Don't think you have to worry about this showing up in league since it cost more than the regular lane oil.
Ok I can see if it is just used for TV as a tool for the viewers, or as a teaching tool for the bowler. That would actually be a good thing.
But I don't think it would be good thing for your average league bowler, bowling in his one night a week league. I can see where it would help the bowler who can read oil patterns and give him an unfair advantage, compared to the average Joe who just might get himself more confused than he is already.
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I like this a lot for a learning tool on TV. When you get into it though, the dye is going to get in everything, clothes, skin, and the balls. With so much focus on appearance i'm sure you'll love that gold ball or 400A when it is nice and blue around your ball track.
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Here is the link to the announcement that the PBA put out:
http://news.pba.com/post/2013/11/1/PBA-to-Introduce-Dyed-Oil-for-ESPNe28099s-World-Series-of-Bowling-Telecasts.aspx
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I like this a lot for a learning tool on TV. When you get into it though, the dye is going to get in everything, clothes, skin, and the balls. With so much focus on appearance i'm sure you'll love that gold ball or 400A when it is nice and blue around your ball track.
did you see one of the bowlers posted a pic of his Tour Pearl's flare on the oil? Oh it's a spectacle, Lol! I have to agree that it'll get into everything.
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I like this a lot for a learning tool on TV. When you get into it though, the dye is going to get in everything, clothes, skin, and the balls. With so much focus on appearance i'm sure you'll love that gold ball or 400A when it is nice and blue around your ball track.
did you see one of the bowlers posted a pic of his Tour Pearl's flare on the oil? Oh it's a spectacle, Lol! I have to agree that it'll get into everything.
Yeah a storm rep posted it, it was Dom's ball
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I think another thing the PBA could do is have a side pair with the US Open pattern on 1 lane and then a House shot on the other so people can see the difference....
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So many uneducated comments on facebook posts about this.
People don't understand that this is not being used for the PBA players, this is being used to help inform the viewers about the professional level of bowling. Trying to reestablish sport credibility with general populations.
The advantage I can see for a bowler is the ability to see the fronts breaking down, as it will be right in front of them. With all the lights inside bowling centers and especially on the PBA setups, I don't see anyway a bowler will be able to see exactly how the oil is breaking down with the glare/reflection. You still have to repeat shots and know when exactly and which way to move to maximize carry.
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I would love to see this in my house so that the few lefties can stop bitchin that righties have the biggest advantage on THS. Absolute blasphemy
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I would love to see this in my house so that the few lefties can stop bitchin that righties have the biggest advantage on THS. Absolute blasphemy
What? LOL Lefties have the advantage as their shot stays relatively the same. There are so many more right handed bowlers than left, causing the right side to break down faster
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SV isn't that insane? This is the first house I have ever heard it in. Every other house it has always been known that lefties the have advantage. I think their claim is our side is walled up. Completely insane
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SV isn't that insane? This is the first house I have ever heard it in. Every other house it has always been known that lefties the have advantage. I think their claim is our side is walled up. Completely insane
Down here in Texas, there are houses that do not oil equally on the left and the right. The theory being, that yes, there is way less play on the left so with less oil starting on the left, both sides will have to move and make adjustments during the set instead of the lefties standing and throwing in the same place all night.
They are trying to keep it somewhat fair and require both sides to have to make moves. However, if you are a high rev lefty, some have to ball down to urethane or plastic as it is just too dry while the right handers can start with the high end stuff.