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tdub36tjt

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Rhino Page
« on: November 13, 2008, 04:26:36 AM »
I work at Taylor Lanes and I overheard one of the head people of the PBA and Patrick Allen and the were talking about how last year the left side was so easy at times that you didn't need to have to have "skill" to bowl well. They also said at times the lane machine was messed up and the lefties were shut out. They proceeded to say that this earthe have the machines working great and they have the left side worked out where this year only thwe lefties with real skill are succeeding.

I kinda thought about who had such success last year and isnt doing much this year and obviously Rhino camne to mind. Watching him in practice last night, most of the people in the TQR had a better look. It made me wonder if Rhino is who he was referring to mostly. I kinda always thought he had a lot of room last year every time on TV. While I know he would whoop my butt in bowling I reall am beginning to wonder if he is really at the caliber of the others on tour. My gut says no.

 

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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2008, 03:50:30 PM »
One of Rhino's key strengths that he probaly does better than every lefty on tour (except maybe Couch) is generating speed and leverage at the release point while using footwork so he doesn't have to accelerate on the downswing.  Problem is, the A-22 machine this year is having major issues laying the patterns down true.  

With the huge mound of oil in the midlane to the end of the pattern that the A-22 is laying down, every pattern is alot different than they used to play and it's a big re-learning of these patterns that the players have to go through.  He adapted pretty fast to the patterns last year, and with the left side usually hooking more than the right and having a touch more hold last year, his A-game fit the patterns very well.  Now with A22 and the modifications you have to break down and rebuild physically to combat new experiences each week.  That goes for everyone.  Look how far down averages have been so far on the "named" patterns once you get out of the top 20 in qualifying.  At least 10 pins a game from last year.

The patterns aren't playing anywhere close to what they used to play like and if you don't pick up quickly on them and can alter every preconcieved notion you had about them on the fly, it's very easy to get out to a slow start and not have enough time to bounce back.  Looks like that's happening to Rhino and alot of other guys.
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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 08:15:21 PM »
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5  Rhino Page  Topeka, Kan   14  1621  3183  +383  227.36   nuff said
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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 08:32:43 PM »
lol because he doesnt do good in a couple tournaments this makes him not worthy of the greatest rookie year of all time, give me a break. you cant tell me all he has accomplished so far in his career means nothing. i think even in his short career (compared to bohn or couch) that he has proved himself. give him 20+ years out here and see where he is.

and now he is 5th this week. with most other lefties struggling
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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2008, 08:37:42 PM »
Yeah, I looked at past champions on the Chameleon pattern, and I see Patrick Allen's name plastered everywhere, so I picked him for my fantasy league this week, along with Parker.  45th and 34th.  Only guy I got right this week was Sean Rash.  If I'd have picked Rhino instead of Patrick Allen, one of the "good lefties," I'd be in great shape.
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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2008, 07:42:43 AM »
Why don't we wait before the season is over before we pat ourselves to hard (Rhino may or may not win one this year but I think shooting him down this early is more than a little premature), I seem to remember Norm was struggling coming back until the final two majors of last year.  Not saying that Rhino is as good as Duke but the guy definitely has game to have done as well as he has in the international competition.

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2008, 08:41:00 AM »
he might be having whats refered to as a sophomore slump not uncommon at all

i dont ( imo ) think he is a chump by any means
dude is a competitor
i dont like many lefties, but i damn sure like rhino
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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2008, 10:05:27 AM »
Is that why one of them main guys from the PBA and PA said this year is the best the machine has ever worked. They said last year the machine was a wreck. I think they would know more than you would.

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Problem is, the A-22 machine this year is having major issues laying the patterns down true.  

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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2008, 12:59:49 PM »
Then what is the machine busted again because it looks like RHino is the only lefty to make match play,  I could be wrong but it looked like PB3, PA Couch and Scroggy all are out of the top 32?

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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2008, 01:08:57 PM »
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Is that why one of them main guys from the PBA and PA said this year is the best the machine has ever worked. They said last year the machine was a wreck. I think they would know more than you would.




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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2008, 02:23:40 PM »
Keep in mind that PA was one of the people involved in the initial conversation overheard by the original poster.

In the 7-8 events I've watched in person over the past couple of years (usually the two qualifying rounds of 7 games) PA has always stood out in my mind as one of the bowlers with more room to miss than the others.

Instead of assuming that PA is somehow of inferior skill level, I credit PA as a bowler who has more insight and knows how to make the right adjustments to create more room to create better scores. The thought that he didn't have any "skill" never crossed my mind.

Interesting that PA doesn't seem to extend that same respect to his competitors.
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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2008, 02:32:17 PM »
If PA was talking about any one lefty, my money would be on Billy "O".

He seems to only do well when the leftside is W-I-D-E open!

Exempt "Lefty" points through 3 events:

7. Parker Bohn III
12. Mike Scroggins
34. Patrick Allen
46. Jason Couch
56. Rhino Page
59. Billy Oatman
61. Andrew Cain
64. Jason Lundquist
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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2008, 02:36:42 PM »
I like your interesting comments there JAnderson.

Uncle Crusty you are NOT 24.

Did someone say something about playing inside of 15 for lefties...why is that important?

How often on tour do they have to play there.

PA great bowler...don't remember ever seeing him right of 15 at the arrows, PB3 known greatness...maybe seen him right of there a few times....importance?
Scroggins....never.

As to Scroggins....I'm sure the shows he was bad on he was not releasing the way he was during the week as he was throwing knuckle balls on those shows.!
Not last year.

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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2008, 02:55:00 PM »
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I like your interesting comments there JAnderson.

Uncle Crusty you are NOT 24.

Did someone say something about playing inside of 15 for lefties...why is that important?

How often on tour do they have to play there.

PA great bowler...don't remember ever seeing him right of 15 at the arrows, PB3 known greatness...maybe seen him right of there a few times....importance?
Scroggins....never.

As to Scroggins....I'm sure the shows he was bad on he was not releasing the way he was during the week as he was throwing knuckle balls on those shows.!
Not last year.

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Nomination for most incoherent post of the week. Any seconds?

And on a riveting side note, we all learned I'm not 24 years old. How LL has deduced this, other than maybe looking at my profile and seeing I'm 22, is beyond me.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2008, 04:02:21 PM »
You sound like you are 40...trying to be 22.  NOT.

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PPS the real question about this post (and not for Uncle Crusty) is why would it be important to a righty that a lefty play right of 15.  I always find this thought....humorous!
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Re: Rhino Page
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2008, 04:59:49 PM »
I've seen PA play 4th arrow before, he can do it.