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Rileybowler

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Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« on: June 12, 2017, 09:29:45 PM »
I was bowling senior league today and threw it appeared 3 beautiful shots and left 8 pins. I have heard that there is really nothing that you can do but was wondering if there is a standard adjustment to make for this.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2017, 12:22:58 PM »
Quote from: milorafferty on June 14, 2017, 09:16:13 AM
Quote from: JazlarVonSteich on June 14, 2017, 08:44:43 AM
Old site, but this reveals the truth...
http://www.teamstatpro.com/solid8pin.htm

And of course I left one in league last night in the 10th of the last game. 

I completely agree with this link. I always say that if you left ANY pin, then it wasn't a "perfect" hit. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves.

All of my hits are perfect. Let me tell myself that!
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2017, 10:13:39 AM »
Actually the high flush solid 8 is a result of actions which are beyond the control of the bowler.  Even the article which does a great job of analysis admits that the 8 is the result of a perfectly thrown shot.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2017, 10:20:45 AM »
Quote from: avabob on June 15, 2017, 10:13:39 AM
Actually the high flush solid 8 is a result of actions which are beyond the control of the bowler.  Even the article which does a great job of analysis admits that the 8 is the result of a perfectly thrown shot.

If the 8 pin was still standing, then the shot wasn't perfect.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2017, 11:43:09 AM »
Quote from: milorafferty on June 15, 2017, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: avabob on June 15, 2017, 10:13:39 AM
Actually the high flush solid 8 is a result of actions which are beyond the control of the bowler.  Even the article which does a great job of analysis admits that the 8 is the result of a perfectly thrown shot.

If the 8 pin was still standing, then the shot wasn't perfect.

Ummm... yeah it is! That's what happens sometimes when 1 round object contacts another. You have no control over that at all. We've known how the solid 8 pin remains for 30 yrs now. Nuthin new here.
The headpin hits the 2 turns to the inside takes the 5 b4 the ball gets there and low & behold= solid 8! Whether the 1&2 are ever so slightly off spot that you can't obviously see it or the spin of the ball causes the headpin to spin funny as well. There is no adjustment to make.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2017, 11:49:04 AM »
The cure for leaving solid 8 pins is the T-ZONE!!!! C'mon now, everyone knows that!
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2017, 11:52:52 AM »
This is why I just saw racks. Who wants to hit flush??
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2017, 12:08:18 PM »
My last comment will be this; you can get a strike without a "perfect" hit, if you do happen to throw it perfectly, then it will result in a strike. Otherwise, it's not a perfect hit for the current condition.

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2017, 12:59:05 PM »
How is a "perfectly thrown shot" defined?  What is the criterion exactly?
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2017, 01:00:39 PM »
Quote from: Good Times Good Times on June 15, 2017, 12:59:05 PM
How is a "perfectly thrown shot" defined?  What is the criterion exactly?

It's 90% of the shots that don't strike.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2017, 01:35:18 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 15, 2017, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: Good Times Good Times on June 15, 2017, 12:59:05 PM
How is a "perfectly thrown shot" defined?  What is the criterion exactly?

It's 90% of the shots that don't strike.

There is that way of looking at it...
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2017, 02:04:20 PM »
Quote from: Good Times Good Times on June 15, 2017, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 15, 2017, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: Good Times Good Times on June 15, 2017, 12:59:05 PM
How is a "perfectly thrown shot" defined?  What is the criterion exactly?

It's 90% of the shots that don't strike.

There is that way of looking at it...

That's what all the league bowlers say! "I threw that perfect!"
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2017, 08:55:14 AM »
Quote from: milorafferty on June 15, 2017, 12:08:18 PM
My last comment will be this; you can get a strike without a "perfect" hit, if you do happen to throw it perfectly, then it will result in a strike. Otherwise, it's not a perfect hit for the current condition.

Wrong. There is no 100% guaranteed strike in bowling. They even did tests to find the perfect strike and still could not strike 100% of the time. There is no guarantee that the pins are going to react in such a way that they all go down. Way too many variables involved.

A true stone 8 is just bad luck.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2017, 11:59:27 AM »
Good point, nothing is guaranteed no matter where you put the ball.  Think about this.  If you are worried about leaving a solid 8 it is possible to put the ball a little bit higher or a little bit lighter and avoid the 8.  However either adjustment ( assuming you can make such an adjustment ) decreases your chance of carry compared to the flush hit that could leave an 8. 
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