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splendorlex

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Righties and left side spares:
« on: November 29, 2005, 03:39:36 AM »
Would you prefer to leave a ten pin rather than a 7 or 4 or anything on the left side?  I just can't seem to get lined up properly to shoot at stuff on the left side.  It just feels strange for whatever reason, and I miss a lot of spares on the left side consequently.  I usually try to stick with my plastic ball, but I'm having trouble with that too.  Any recommendations?  Do you line up right and throw it left, line up left, or maybe throw your hook ball at them?  What gives you the most success on left side spares?

Also, I was wondering whether you ALWAYS use plastic for spares, unless it's something that calls for your "strike ball."

 

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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2005, 11:43:54 AM »
i usually line up right and throw straight at them so to keep any hook out of play. been doing that for a few years now.
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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2005, 11:50:58 AM »
I tell most of my bowlers that it doesn't matter where you line up for the spare if you don't have a mark to hit to make the spare.  What you need to do is just find an open pair of lanes one day and shadow bowl and experiment with different ways to make every pin on the lane and chart where you're standing, where you're angled to, what ball you're using, and where your ball is hitting around 15ft to make the spare.  

Myself, I look at a mark just about 5 feet shy of the pin(s) that I am trying to convert and line up accordingly with whatever spareball I'm using at the time(lately it's been a columbia wicked going 24mph with 0 rotation and tilt).  This allows me to keep a free and loose armswing and by looking that far down the lane I never 'catch' the ball short or rotate around it.  It's just a free loose swing with good extension and as of late I can honestly say I've been around 85-90% on all single pin spares, especially 7s and 10s.
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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2005, 12:29:14 PM »
I hook at left side spares----I was trained that way many years ago and haven't changed.I simply aim my body at the pin(s) and then roll the ball at the spare I'm shooting.
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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2005, 12:31:29 PM »
I wrote a long reply to this.  The site went down and lost it.  I'm not re-writing.
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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2005, 12:38:03 PM »
quote:
I wrote a long reply to this.  The site went down and lost it.  I'm not re-writing.
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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2005, 12:46:46 PM »
I'll summarize what I wrote:
move left (i'm a righty)
throw straight
use 5th or 6th arrow
dont' mess with mid lane puddles and dry spots
square up with what you can see (the lane) not what you cant (your cross lane trajectory).
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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2005, 01:56:48 PM »
I would prefer to shoot for the 10 pin because it's the one that is left the most often, so I've had the most practice at it!

Anyhow, just wanted to "ditto" what CZ said.  I can stand inside and send my ball from left gutter to right gutter and back to hit the 7 pin, but whether it's any good depends on how well I know the condition of the lane.  When you throw it absolutely straight, all that matters is whether you are lined up right and hit your mark.

Like CZ, my philosophy is that any single pin spare should be hit with a straight ball.  It eliminates all the variables.

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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2005, 02:52:14 PM »
Whether you throw the ball straight or hook it, if you shoot cross lane at the 7 pin you need to align your body in the set up so you will be walking parallel to your swing path (which will be right to left, compared to your normal strike approach) instead of straight up the boards.  Then the approach and swing should feel just like a strike shot.  It may help to visualize an imaginary lane and approach with the 7 pin right in the middle of the 1 - 3 pocket.  Then line up for your approach as a strike approach on the imaginary lane.  --  JohnP

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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2005, 03:07:54 PM »
Make sure you square your shoulders at the 4 or 7 pin, then walk straight at it while throwing a normal ball at the target(don't try to aim the shot, just roll it).  Works perfectly with plastic IF you can start square and walk straight otherwise it's a crap shoot.  You can walk crooked and hit your target thinking it's a good shot and miss by a foot wide either direction.

I try to roll over the third arrow (fourth would be better but it's too hard for me shooting to the right corner so I stick with third)on the way to the left hand corner or the right hand corner, just have to move the body on the approach.  A lot of my problems with corner pins boils down to starting the ball to soon on the approach.  When the timing goes so does the accuracy you need for the corner pins.  

Plus you need to practice these corner shots!  Do it until it is second nature and you have no doubts about your ability to make it!

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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2005, 04:05:33 PM »
If I had to shoot at a 1 pin spare of my choice I would choose a ten pin.  The reason is I practiced it so much that it is really easy to convert.  I stand all the way left throw it straight at the center arrow and mission accomplished.

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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2005, 05:41:18 PM »
splendorlex: First, you have to decide what you want to accomplish in bowling.

If you're going to be bowling league in one or two houses (and nothing more), then hooking at left side spares will be easier to master and probably get the job done.

If, however, you want to venture into the world of tournaments in strange houses with unpredictable conditions, you're going to have to learn to throw straight at all single pin combinations. At first this is painful and error prone, but to be successful it's a necessary skill to master. For left side combinations, it really doesn't matter if you go straight up the left channel or go at a slight angle from the right. The main thing is establishing a technique that is comfortable and consistent.
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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2005, 06:15:03 PM »
First I will say O don't shoot at 10 or 7 pins, I shoot at 8 or 9 pins. That's the way I approach, mentally, spares . I tend to  ( mentally) have a spare on the left or right side of the actual pin. Sounds strange, but it works for me.

I line up cross lane and shoot straight at the pin, but remember, I don't shoot at 10's or 7's, that way I have a bit of room for error, at least that's how it works mentally for me. If you are missing spares, you might want to give it a shot. A guy told me that last summer, he said it'll take you a few months or weeks, to work out the mental game, but it has helped me a lot ! I'm closer to 87% (so my wife who keeps stats) says, all I know I don't fear or hate 7's or 10's because of this mental game.
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Re: Righties and left side spares:
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2005, 06:52:30 PM »
i used to just go to the first arrow ( right side r handed) and throw my strike ball.  Since i got my abso I still do this, but its i dont hit the pin in the same spot all the time like i used too.  Im probably going to start using my plastic more.  Whats weird is i have been using my plastic and shooting straight at the 4 and 6 now.  I dont know why but i havent missed one since i started shooting like this.
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