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northface28

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Why?
« on: January 04, 2004, 10:54:21 PM »
Why do bowlers cut other bowlers down? If you look at the broad spectrum of bowlers I would say 1%-2% take it very seriously. Seriously in terms of quitting their job and pursuing a spot out on tour. Too often I hear "THS", "wall bowler", or "league hack". Some people enjoy going to league and exerting little to no physical (talent) or mental (reading lanes propely etc) effort at all. Should they be faulted for this? I dont think so. Can you fault the recreational bowler for the lane conditions presented to him/her? You are a product of your enviroment. If it werent for the "league bowler" bowling would be in worse shape than it is now. If we continue to demean the recreational bowler this sport will spiral to its eventual death. Bowling is supposed to be fun and I think many of us are losing or have lost sight of that.
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northface28

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Re: Why?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2004, 02:14:46 PM »
Exactly fellas. I was speaking in terms of the arrogant bowler who "gets" something out of downtalking other bowlers. Not to be rude but these are the gentlemen that often have their names near the bottom of Tour/regional result pages, at least in my area.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2004, 02:34:21 PM »
Sawbones,
I understand where you are coming from. But again is it the bowlers fault? Im not sure hence why I started this post. It seems some bowlers are fighting a battle that cant be won. No matter how well they do on a house shot or something diffucult there is a "reason" he/she did well. If its the house shot they were easy, if it was a scratch tournament with a tough shot he got lucky, matched up well, it was the ball, etc there are a myriad of excuses. It seems like some bowlers really want to revel in someones failures whenever they may come. Also why do some bowlers feel they are owed something or a deserve a some sort of ceremony because it took them years to average 200+ or shoot honor scores. Instead of showing resentment why not pat your fellow bowler for on the back for bowling well even if the lanes were easy. But for some I guess its easier to backbite. Its a double-edge sword when it comes to bowling damned if you do and damned if you dont. How many times have you heard someone say "he averages 190 on this, oh he sucks" and my favorite "Hes not that good he averages 230 because they are easy".
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Re: Why?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2004, 02:42:18 PM »
But one of the great things about this sport is that even a 75 year old man who is well past his glory days can still shoot 300.  Young and old, good and bad, can throw strikes and play this game til their death bed.  Some do it more consistently than others and that's why they're good, but everyone has that chance for a perfect game.  Not many other sports can say that.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2004, 03:11:57 PM »
I know in the leagues I bowl in there are many who put in tons of hours practicing. Some of these guys average high, some not so high. I never practice anymore and still average high. I've heard comments sometimes, but most know I do well out of town in tournaments. There are some bowlers that they always target with criticism because they bowl one night a week and avg.  230. I think some of this is jealosy. Some bowlers are just more talented and don't need as much practice. These people who criticize just won't admit it this and blame it on the THS or the new balls.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2004, 03:29:40 PM »
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It seems like some bowlers really want to revel in someones failures whenever they may come. Also why do some bowlers feel they are owed something or a deserve a some sort of ceremony because it took them years to average 200+ or shoot honor scores. Instead of showing resentment why not pat your fellow bowler for on the back for bowling well even if the lanes were easy. But for some I guess its easier to backbite.


Northface - I don't think this applies only to bowlers... Some people are just like that - they have to cut others down to make themselves feel better.  For example, you ever heard "he's just rich 'cause his Daddy gave him the money" or "the only reason he's the quarterback is 'cause his dad's brother's uncle is the coach".  Regardless, maybe this kid is a great quarterback, or actually made his own money, but due to jealousy/needing to feel superior the cutdowns begin. There are countless other examples, but I think you are merely seeing a reflection of human behavior, not necessarily a "bowler's behavior".

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Re: Why?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2004, 03:43:37 PM »
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Bowlers who have worked hard to develop a game feel they should be rewarded by being able to shoot higher scores than the once a week hack and they would if everyone bowled on tough conditions, but since we dont, hacks get just as much recognition for their honor scores as do the hard workers and as a means of letting off the frustration, such terms as you mentioned come flowing out.



Well put.

I'll admit that I'm one of the bowlers that Bones is talking about and yes, to some degree it is arrogance on my part.  I used to be "something special" when I walked into a bowling alley, now I'm just another guy.  (I'm not special - waaah!)  Regardless, I don't like to make fun of, criticize, ridicule, or otherwise make derisive comments about another bowler with one exception - the obnoxious braggart/show-off who is definitely not "all that and a bag of chips".  They don't seem to mind disparaging comments anyway.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2004, 12:01:01 PM »
When people put or use pejoratives or act in arrogant way towards their friends and companions are just venting out ignorance. They are just ignorant sub human species that feel frustrated, shallow, insecure and have a very low esteem of themselves. These are people that will pick a fight very quickly with a woman. Do not feel sorry or any kind of feelings for them because they do not have any. Ignore them and they will go away. Do not feed their empty lives with your attention. Let them shrink away into a hole just like Sadam Hussein.