Author Topic: Question for the old timers??? (Read 760 times)

mrbowlingnut · « **on:** March 11, 2005, 02:29:34 AM »

I have high respect to the players who are older/experienced because of there ability to modify there ball roll and shape. I have been bowling since 1998 so i am still a novice to reading patterns and can vary my release for degrees of side rotation but i cannot change my tilt. I score low on floods and burnt heads because of my low amount of axis tilt about 10 degrees or so.

So how does one change axis tilt with hand postions??? And do you change your side rotation to more or less when you do change your tilt??? As more up the back in oil or around the ball more for fried heads and brunt midlanes???

I would appreciate any help to better my game from some inside knowledge of changing the ball reations i can currently generate. Thanks!!

jimensminger · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2005, 10:57:41 AM »

for me,...I change tilt with the thumb at release position. Keeping the thumb at say,..11 0'clock and not rotating around the ball will keep the ball in a straighter path than a 1 0'clock thumb that turns to 3 o'clock on release. Like a baseball pitcher,..different hand positions at release gives different rotation..

mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2005, 11:15:27 AM »

Thanks for the tips any changes to finger pitches or spans that would also help increase axis tilt???

DukeHarding · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2005, 11:35:13 AM »

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Thanks for the tips any changes to finger pitches or spans that would also help increase axis tilt???

Back in the 60s-70s, I would: Pitch your fingers (laterally) away from your thumb will increase your spin/turn naturally on release.
Pitch (laterally) towards your thumb will keep you under the ball more (up the back).
Within reason, or you can do damage to your hand.
Changing spans, and forward/reverese finger pitch does change ball reaction...but the specifics elude me right now.
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charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2005, 12:36:22 PM »

(All images drawn are for righties; mirror the clock settings for lefties.)
FWIW
I change axis tilt by turning my hand further inside than normal. Mornmal is thumb at 1/2:00, finger at 6:30/7:00. Further is closer to thumb at 2:00/2:30, and fingers at 8:00/8:30. Keeping hand in this position or as close as possible, until release point. At release, try to come through the ball, fingers staying at no more than 6:00 (Having turned from 8:30 to 6:00 at release). Through all this TRY to keep the wrist cocked, as much as possible; this may be the most difficult part for some. Visualize a fanning release, with fingers spread wide apart and at about shoulder height, coming off to the side as in old Don Johnson release photos.

For greater rotational release, it's just a matter of rotating your fingers around to 4:00 or even 3:00, AFTER the thumb has "escaped", instead of keeping them where they are at the release point. Note: the first time you try this, you will increase your axis tilt, because your thumb will start turning also and your track will lower. This is not correct. Keep the thumb where it is: try not to trun your wrist and/or thumb early. The thumb must exit first, before, or as close to "before" as possible. BEFORE, Before (repeated for emphasis) rotating your fingers around the side to 3:00 or 4:00.

Sorry, but that's as close as I can come to a rational description. "Feel" is mostly what I use. A Camera and a "good" coach can make a world of difference, if feel fails you.

Good luck.

Edited on 3/11/2005 1:33 PM

Author Topic: Question for the old timers??? (Read 760 times)

mrbowlingnut

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