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alien

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Densest Core
« on: March 23, 2004, 10:19:39 PM »
If the core in the Uranium is the "densest material allowed by the ABC", I suppose it is also the densest in the market now, which ball is the ball that has the 2nd densest core?


Where can we find out about this info?  Anyone?

 

J_Mac

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2004, 01:30:12 PM »
"densest material allowed by the ABC" - marketing ploy!
"banned from the PBA" - marketing ploy!

Just another way to get people all hyped up about a ball.  The SD-73 wasn't really banned from the PBA, the coverstock was just too soft.  So it was never legal in the first place.

Just because Lane #1  feels the need to tell the average joe bowler that they are using the densest material allowed by the ABC doesn't mean that is the densest on the market.

Who has the second densest core?  Who cares!
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alien

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2004, 04:50:59 PM »
May be you are right, J Mac.

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Just because Lane #1  feels the need to tell the average joe bowler that they are using the densest material allowed by the ABC doesn't mean that is the densest on the market.
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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2004, 04:58:22 PM »
it might be the densest material allowed, but it not more dense than what is available to any other manufacturer.  

It's like saying, my carton of eggs has the most eggs allowed in the busienss. It may be true, but it's still just 12 and every other company can put 12 in a carton too.

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2004, 05:03:59 PM »
Whatever Lane 1 says about the Uranium core, what matters is what the ball does on the lanes. This is one heck of a ball. As Bob Hanson says, this is a must try ball. I will upgrade that to this is a must-have ball. I love it and if you look at the reviews, I am not alone.

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2004, 05:55:02 PM »
I'll bet the one who asked this is twsting the question about a little bit. The Uranium has a very low RG core, not necessarily the densest (densest is something else entirely). 2.43 is the lowest RG allowed/permitted by the ABCs. Ball in that range (2.43-2.45) are the Inferno, Super Charge, Uranium, V2 Sanded plus a few others I can't recall right now.
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da Shiv

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2004, 06:11:20 PM »
The Diesel Particle Solid and Diesel Reactive are in that RG range too.

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charlest

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2004, 08:30:06 PM »
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The Diesel Particle Solid and Diesel Reactive are in that RG range too.

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2004, 08:40:35 PM »
Bah... the Columbia300 Ceramicore is the densest ever. That little nugget in the middle of the ball was the best ever.

I think we need to really look at the word they use though... It's densest.

Lets look at the definition of dense:

dense
adj. dens·er, dens·est

1)Having relatively high density.
2)Crowded closely together; compact: a dense population.
3)Hard to penetrate; thick: a dense jungle.
Permitting little light to pass through, because of compactness of matter: dense glass; a dense fog.
Opaque, with good contrast between light and dark areas. Used of a photographic negative.
4)Difficult to understand because of complexity or obscurity: a dense novel.
5)Slow to apprehend; thickheaded.

Density:
1)The quantity of something per unit measure, especially per unit length, area, or volume.
2)The mass per unit volume of a substance under specified conditions of pressure and temperature.

So lets think about it. Just because the core is the densest does NOT mean it's somehow heavier. If there's no air pockets in it, it's more dense than another material that does have some air in it.

Then again after all of this talk, I'm thinking they mean definition #5:
thickheaded.

AdrianS

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2004, 08:44:50 PM »
The Blue Wolf had a mean little core! a driller i know showed me one once and told me to pick it up, then i picked up the Quantum core lying next to it, it was like a brick and a feather sitting next to each other.
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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2004, 10:39:00 PM »
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And the "old" Diesel Particle Pearl.



Yes, indeed.  The only reason I didn't mention that one is that it is out of production now.  It's actually my favorite of all the Diesels.  I use mine more than any other ball I have.  

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2004, 02:43:54 AM »
The ABC/WIBC updated their specifications last year. The earlier specs only specified metallic objects as being prohibited in bowling balls. The new specs states that "the density of any piece or component in a bowling ball (i.e. core, coverstock, weight block, etc.) shall not exceed 3.80 g/mL3". Don't know what that means but the comments i got from Dyno-Thane and Ebonite was that the new specs would not be a problem.

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2004, 10:15:34 AM »
The way I see it is that the Uranium's whole diamond core is of maximum density 3.8 g/lm3. Balls that have high density flip blocks, means only the flip block is of 3.8, so the rest of the core is using lighter material/less dense.

So the Uranium has a whole core of high density material and other balls have a core with just the flip blocks of high density.

Having the whole core of high density material will be more powerful. =:^D

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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2004, 02:20:34 PM »
the uranium core is the densest material allowed.

the ceramic materials used in cores was the hardest.  there's a difference.  see diamonds.

fyi the uranium core is the same material used in the mini diamonds in the past.
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Re: Densest Core
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2004, 10:07:35 PM »
"The new specs states that "the density of any piece or component in a bowling ball (i.e. core, coverstock, weight block, etc.) shall not exceed 3.80 g/mL3". Don't know what that means but the comments i got from Dyno-Thane and Ebonite was that the new specs would not be a problem."

jensm -- The weight of water is 1.0 g/ml (or g/cc), so the allowable density of corestock is 3.8 times that of water.  Does this help any?  --  JohnP