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gt_proshop

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What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« on: February 04, 2014, 10:58:30 PM »
 I have been told the Standard Bowling Pro Shop lease Rate is $1 - $1.50 per league bowler. Is This True? Any information will Help. Thanks guys

 

itsallaboutme

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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2014, 06:16:09 AM »
Per month?  I don't know anyone that has ever paid that much. 


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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2014, 08:35:10 AM »
Is it now? What would Say is a Normal Proshop Monthly Rate

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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2014, 08:42:53 AM »
Depends on location, number of lanes, number of league bowlers, amount of open play, size of shop.  Too many variables. 

Even in southern California and New York I've never heard of rates that high.  Maybe if it was a large center in an affluent area with huge open play and a lower league bowler count.   

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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2014, 01:14:15 PM »
This is a newly built house in Columbus, Ms. There are 24 lanes. There is a total of 182 active league bowlers at this center; obviously, some bowl in more than one league. Those league days include Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday.
Before paying taxes, payout, insurance, and distributor fees,  I pay the center almost 3/8 of our monthly income, So I am walking on thin ice.. I do not want to throw out any numbers but for anyone who operates a proshop, I profited off the following last month: 12 balls, plugged and redrilled 7, baked 3, and sold about 50 inserts plus other accessories..

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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2014, 02:33:59 PM »
If there are only 200 league bowlers and you are paying any rent you are paying too much.  January is typically one of the best months in the pro shop, so if you only worked on 20 balls last month the future doesn't look good.

I'm guessing by the way you worded it that you are paying 3/8 of gross revenue.  Most well run pro shops can keep their COG's around 50%, so I'm sure once all your expenses are figured you are losing money.

Unless you are only opening the shop one day a week I can't believe this venture is worth doing in a town of 25k with 2 bowling centers. 

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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2014, 07:57:01 AM »
Once again, I've got to agree with itsallaboutme.  You're paying too much rent.  Having a shop in a bowling center will draw customers in, it's better for the center to have you in there for little or no rent than to have an empty room and no pro shop.  Most people will bowl at the center they get their equipment at, even if it's just a few games of practice after they get something drilled.  I could understand a bit of rent to cover your utilities, and if you aren't getting much revenue that's really not their problem, BUT it sounds like you're paying too much.  I'm sure it's a delicate situation, but you might see how much they want you there.  One of my favorite sayings is "A little profit is better than no profit," meaning that if it's either reduce your rent or lose it altogether for the center, it might be something for them to think about. 
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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2014, 08:42:00 AM »
If my math is correct, 182 times $1.50 = $273 per month. That is if the center is not counting the bowlers more than once if they bowl in multiple leagues,

I do not think that is too much.  You need to either sharpen you skills (no insult intended) or do a better job in marketing your business.  If you are new to the pro shop business, you are probably competing with other shops that have been around much longer than you. It is very hard for a bowler who is happy with his current shop to go to another shop. 

Yes, I agree that most centers like having a pro shop, but lets face it, in todays market, at least in my area, the centers are not making a ton of money.  Some of them are removing the shop and installing vending machines that contain tape etc. and using that space to install more video games.

If I were you, I would review my pricing and look for ways to better market my shop. 

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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2014, 10:19:42 AM »
At the same time though, you just aren't going to get much revenue off of 182 bowlers. 
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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2014, 10:33:39 AM »
OP said the following:  "I profited off the following last month: 12 balls, plugged and redrilled 7, baked 3, and sold about 50 inserts plus other accessories.."

Let's assume his prices are generally lower:

12 balls ($50 each after paying for the product) - $600.00
7 Plug & redrill ($30 each, not knowing what he actually plugged) - $210.00
3 baked balls - $45.00
50 grips and accessories - $200.00

Total $1050.00 roughly, minus rent $273.00 (if the math is right)  So basically with any other overhead he may have he's making about $150.00 per week.  I'm hoping this is not a full-time gig for you. 

(Obviously these are very rough numbers)



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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2014, 11:06:44 AM »
Yeah, which makes it really not worth doing, even if his rent went down . . more of a revenue problem than a rent problem.  But as far as a going rate, I don't know that there really is one . .
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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2014, 12:06:01 PM »
Google Columbus, MS.  It's a town of 24,000 people with a 15% unemployment rate and the median income for a household in the city was $27,393.  The bowling center is open 5 hours a day. 40 people bowling league per day.  The best marketer in the world couldn't make any money in a pro shop there. 

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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2014, 01:05:43 PM »
I'm in Jackson, MS and I can't even imagine paying that. I'm running a part time shop in my garage and people tell me that I'm doing as much business as the other two shops in town. There's an alley wanting us to rent a shop from them but it would be a druggie just to break even much less make any money.


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Re: What is the Going ProShop Rate?
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2014, 09:42:28 AM »
5000 is a good number to remember here.

That is the number of local league bowlers (within ~25 miles) that it takes to support 1 full time pro shop that wants to make a fair living.

Rent in this situation should be comped ball repairs and maybe donated time to coaching kids to try to build a base.  They should be happy to have you there.
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