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On a side note, how great was that 17 year old girl and her duel with Liz Johnson..
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Post by: supernoodle on May 10, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
Personally I can't stand it,there is being pumped up and then there is just being classless.
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Post by: Hogsharley on May 10, 2008, 05:41:56 PM
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let me tell you what a joke Sean Rash is. He needs to take it down a couple of notches and stop acting like a kid after he bowls a strike.
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Post by: Gazoo on May 10, 2008, 06:30:01 PM
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the kid who threw the buzz bomb. what did they me he throws a cutter? is that a new way to bowl? I never heard of that. so I hope U can explain that to me. sean was not a very sportsman bowler. but I like the jenny she gave liz all she could handle. then went to high or to slow. wish jenny could of won.
Fancy terminology for a backup up ball.(Right handed bowler throwing a lefty hook) Rash needs to go to the Dentist!
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on May 10, 2008, 06:31:42 PM
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the kid who threw the buzz bomb. what did they me he throws a cutter? is that a new way to bowl? I never heard of that. so I hope U can explain that to me. sean was not a very sportsman bowler. but I like the jenny she gave liz all she could handle. then went to high or to slow. wish jenny could of won.
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Post by: SUNDEVIL23 on May 10, 2008, 06:41:55 PM
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I was pretty disgusted when that martinez kid put out his hand to shake sean rushes. after displaying such unsportmans like attitude, I wouldn't have even looked at sean, much less stand there and wait for him to quit yelling to shake my hand.
I don't even think Sean really shook Martinez's hand. It was more of wet noodle "i wont even give you the time of day" hand shake. Listen i am not here to bash Sean, i'm just dissapointed in him. Here you have bowling on network tv and it ends on a horrible note. Even Bo Burton was speechless. This is exactly the type of situation where the veterans on the PBA need to pull him aside and talk to him. Heck Bo should step up and say something.
Post by: Aloarjr810 on May 10, 2008, 06:42:24 PM
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the kid who threw the buzz bomb. what did they me he throws a cutter? is that a new way to bowl? I never heard of that. so I hope U can explain that to me. sean was not a very sportsman bowler. but I like the jenny she gave liz all she could handle. then went to high or to slow. wish jenny could of won.
A Cutter is a sharp breaking hook.
They got it from a English Cricket term-
Cutter
a break delivery bowled by a fast or medium-pace bowler with similar action to a spin bowler, but at a faster pace. It is usually used in an effort to surprise the batsman, although some medium-pace bowlers use the cutter as their stock (main) delivery.
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Post by: J_Mac on May 10, 2008, 06:58:40 PM
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I don't think Sean Rash was being cocky at all. Yes he may have went over the top when celebrating, but he was only putting on a show for those of us at home.
And that is something the PBA has been looking for and trying to get the bowlers on TV to do... but if you read between the lines it sounds like he does this sort of garbage irregardless of whether the cameras are rolling or not.
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Post by: novawagonmaster on May 10, 2008, 07:39:44 PM
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None of you ever will be as good as Sean Rash. Look what he came from, Alaska. How many people do you know that are stars from Alaska? His name is out there, and the kid is a beast. Everyone gets over-wild sometimes, it happens. If anyone out there says they can throw the ball better then him, I'd love to see it.
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Post by: JessN16 on May 10, 2008, 07:47:39 PM
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And that is something the PBA has been looking for and trying to get the bowlers on TV to do... but if you read between the lines it sounds like he does this sort of garbage irregardless of whether the cameras are rolling or not.
And I might have let it go today, but this wasn't a PBA event. And he was bowling a friggin' KID. Nice job, Rash.
I write a column twice a week for my newspaper group (I'm the editor); a lot of the times, it's about bowling. I think you know what I'll be writing about next week.
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Post by: JessN16 on May 10, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
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I mean lets freak out about attitudes.. There are these type of people in every sport.. Barry Bonds to Kobe Bryant to people like Terrell Owens. Get over it.
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This has nothing to do with ability. And "these type of people" need an attitude adjustment. If that describes how you like to act, as well, my same comments apply to you. People who act like a-holes typically get what's coming to them sooner or later.
I guess if the PBA wants Rash doing that stuff on PBA telecasts and at PBA functions, they can have at it, but once he gets down to the USBC level, he's accountable to me and every other USBC bowler he represents. He badly embarrassed himself today and he embarrassed me, my teammates, my leaguemates and everyone else associated with the sport right along with him. He blew up on a K-I-D for crying out loud. If it had been against Weber, it might not have been such a big deal (it would still have been poor sportsmanship) but this was outright ridiculous.
Tell you what -- if you think this has a place in bowling, come bowl in my league sometime. If you had done what Rash did today, you would have left for the parking lot on a stretcher. The only question would have been which of about 30 guys would have knocked you out first, and no, no one would have had your back.
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Post by: imjouster on May 10, 2008, 07:56:18 PM
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I will say that PDW has gotten much better since Dick passed away, he seems to much more down to earth.
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Post by: SUNDEVIL23 on May 10, 2008, 08:11:23 PM
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I think Jess hit the nail on the head. Rash is representing us as bowlers at the USBC level, which is why his actions bother me so much. It makes no difference if he did it to a kid or adult, it was a pathetic display of sportsmanship. I was insulted as a bowler. I just can't believe this is what the PBA is asking for out of their bowlers.
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Post by: Debina on May 10, 2008, 09:54:51 PM
From the convention notes on bowl.com ...
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Lynda Barnes, Double Oak, Texas, and Del Ballard Jr., were elected by USBC athletes to serve as athlete representatives to the USBC Board of Directors beginning Aug. 1. They replace Diandra Asbaty, Chicago, who did not seek re-election, and Sean Rash, Wichita, Kan., who was considered.
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Post by: JessN16 on May 12, 2008, 01:30:38 AM
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i missed the Saturday telecast, what exactly did i not see? also, how old was this "kid" Rash was bowling? Rash himself is only 25
This was the Junior Gold winner, I believe. He looked to be somewhere in his mid-teens.
There's a post in the Lane #1 forum from his ball driller talking about how he cracked out the bridge in his old ball (that's ball, singular) and had to get a replacement drilled basically at the last minute, so we're obviously not talking about someone anywhere near Rash's level as a player or with as many tools available as Rash had. Yet Rash still went off after beating him.
I noticed Rash was positively subdued on the second-day telecast Sunday. Perhaps someone told him to tone it down a little after the first day.
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Post by: tenpinsniper on May 12, 2008, 01:47:06 AM
Post by: JessN16 on May 12, 2008, 02:00:32 AM
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It was all taped Thursday.
I know, but they still had a break in the action between the time he bowled the kid (what was aired Saturday) and when he bowled the Pfeifer guy (which aired Sunday). It wouldn't have surprised me to know he came off the lanes Saturday and someone grabbed him and told him what kind of goober he had just got finished resembling.
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Post by: bassace on May 12, 2008, 02:30:37 AM
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i missed the Saturday telecast, what exactly did i not see? also, how old was this "kid" Rash was bowling? Rash himself is only 25
He is 20. So he is not a kid.
From bowl.com:
A year after finishing seventh at the USBC Junior Gold Championships, Martinez, 20, of San Antonio broke through to win the U.S. Junior Amateur title. He is a two-time Greater San Antonio Bowling Association Youth Bowler of the Year and also is a two-time winner of the Texas Youth Masters championship.
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Post by: actsbowler21 on May 12, 2008, 09:47:00 AM
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i missed the Saturday telecast, what exactly did i not see? also, how old was this "kid" Rash was bowling? Rash himself is only 25
He is 20. So he is not a kid.
From bowl.com:
A year after finishing seventh at the USBC Junior Gold Championships, Martinez, 20, of San Antonio broke through to win the U.S. Junior Amateur title. He is a two-time Greater San Antonio Bowling Association Youth Bowler of the Year and also is a two-time winner of the Texas Youth Masters championship.
that's not good enough for some people on here that won't look past the fact that he throws a back up ball..Some will say he can't be competitive that way..I think he will be..he's been competitive for some time now.
And it was nice to hear Sean was a little more subdued this time around. I missed the second show with exception to the beginning of the first match due to a tornado in the area and local news taking over every local station.
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Post by: Nicanor on May 12, 2008, 10:11:15 AM
Nothing wrong with throwing a backup ball, just a bit unusual at that level.
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on May 13, 2008, 07:14:31 PM
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I'm so glad that Lynda won , she has very low revs , I think they said 175 and Rash had like it was either 425 or 455 . I guess it shows that revs aren't everything, its nice to see accuracy counts for something. Again hats off to Lynda
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Um...did you watch the match? Lynda Barnes got lucky on at least 3 shots. So her "accuracy" was not all that. Sean Rash's balls were pretty much allthere. She bowled great and won, but Rash bowled better.
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on May 14, 2008, 12:58:04 PM
Now, it's probably already been said, but it's pretty obvious that Sean is the PBA's new bad boy, supplanting PDW. I'm sure he's being encouraged to take it up a notch and get a little bit crazy, but there are limits. It sounds as if he went over the line a bit here. Oh well, that's the way it goes these days. The PBA is always looking to attract newer, younger sponsors, so this is the byproduct.
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Post by: Skizriz on May 14, 2008, 08:19:08 PM
Unless there's more that isn't shown, I don't see what the big deal is.
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Post by: SirAshley on May 14, 2008, 10:01:15 PM
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Go to the YouTube link above and watch this one. 2008 Clash of Champions Mens Match 2 It's at the very end.
Unless there's more that isn't shown, I don't see what the big deal is.
Alright, I'm probably going to get flamed for this but I completely agree... After watching this on Youtube, if that shows everything, I don't see what the big deal is... In fact, I think it could be just what bowling needs.... I'm sorry, but I would rather watch my lawn grow than watch Walter Ray Williams bowl. Walter Ray could put insomniacs to sleep. You all may disagree but you will watch Sean Rash next time, like him or not, just to see what he'll do next.... I have to be honest, I like his intensity and arrogance. I find it refreshing with professional bowling. I also think having a bad guy is good for the PBA, now all they need is an exciting good guy, and please don't try to tell me WRW is exciting...LOL...
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Post by: JoshY on May 14, 2008, 10:11:54 PM
COME AND GET IT!!!
YEAH COME ON!!!
good ball *hand shake*
YEAH COME ON ARKANSAS!!!!
COME ON V.I.B YOU OUT THERE WHERE ARE YOU!!!
He sounds like an idiot and he is a jerk. I made a big deal about it because I saw it once and I hate him. Watching it again he just looks like an idiot. If you find that entertaining someone trying to be the next PDW then you go ahead. The difference will always be PDW was just being PDW and Sean Rash is just trying to be PDW.
Post by: JessN16 on May 14, 2008, 10:23:54 PM
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Go to the YouTube link above and watch this one. 2008 Clash of Champions Mens Match 2 It's at the very end.
Unless there's more that isn't shown, I don't see what the big deal is.
Alright, I'm probably going to get flamed for this but I completely agree... After watching this on Youtube, if that shows everything, I don't see what the big deal is... In fact, I think it could be just what bowling needs.... I'm sorry, but I would rather watch my lawn grow than watch Walter Ray Williams bowl. Walter Ray could put insomniacs to sleep. You all may disagree but you will watch Sean Rash next time, like him or not, just to see what he'll do next.... I have to be honest, I like his intensity and arrogance. I find it refreshing with professional bowling. I also think having a bad guy is good for the PBA, now all they need is an exciting good guy, and please don't try to tell me WRW is exciting...LOL...
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That's all fine and good, but this wasn't a PBA event. It was a USBC event. If the PBA wants to promote that kid of pro wrestling, heel-vs-face type of conflict on their telecasts, that is their right. But on a telecast meant not to showcase the PBA, but rather the entire spectrum of competitive bowling, people who don't typically watch PBA telecasts got to watch a professional react in that way towards a very inexperienced amateur. It just wasn't a very bright thing to do.
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Post by: Hook on May 15, 2008, 11:08:47 AM
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That does not show him yelling at the kid.
He directed it toward the crowd, not the kid.
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