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APheLion

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a very common question about sportshot
« on: July 31, 2007, 02:25:29 AM »
at my house, they said they put down a sport shot, and i bowled on it

now, every sport shot has similar characteristics?

lots of backend, it was double stripped before oiling
miss outside and its a bye bye (i threw quite a few gutter balls)
miss inside and it will be hitting the 7 pin

didint shot above 180, my spare game sucked, i missed lots of em
i also had some sliding issues, there was a flood before the foul line and they had to clean it, but its not an excuse to miss too much
i really opened my eyes after bowling on that, i knew that i had to be  90% accurate if i want to even scratch the 200 and they were right, the straighter the better
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
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shelley

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Re: a very common question about sportshot
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 10:31:51 AM »
No, they're definitely not all similar.  There's a wide range of difficulties available even in compliance with the Sport bowling rules.  The PBA patterns, as an example, are all approximately 3:1 shots.  For many people the Cheetah pattern is labeled "easy" because there's friction you can bounce off of reliably if you hit your mark.  The Viper pattern, though, doesn't have that same kind of friction spot and you can't rely on bouncing the ball off of it.  For many, the Viper pattern is much harder.

The PBA, when it lays down its patterns at tournaments, strips the backends very, very thoroughly, when they say "fresh" they mean it.  That can give the bowlers a lot of backend movement.

But in the sense of "miss outside and it keeps sliding, miss inside and it over-reacts", yes, many sport patterns are like that.  They specifically differ from house shots that way; house shots hold to the inside and bounce to the outside.

But definitely not all sport shots are created equal.

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APheLion

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Re: a very common question about sportshot
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2007, 11:37:05 AM »
so u mean a sport shot can have those characteristics right?
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
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shelley

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Re: a very common question about sportshot
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2007, 11:44:53 AM »
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so u mean a sport shot can have those characteristics right?


In general, sport shots don't react when you miss outside and don't hold when you miss inside like a house shot does.  That's not always true, though.  Miss a little inside on the Cheetah pattern and it just slides, miss a little outside and it reacts too much.  There's a sweet spot where it reacts just right.  Miss a LOT on the Cheetah pattern, and it will jump from the inside and probably gutter on the outside, but there's also that little range where it does the opposite as well.  You really gotta hit it right in the middle.

I don't know if the Sport rules specify double-stripping or single-stripping (or any stripping at all).  The PBA double-strips, though.  In my limited experience with sport shots and PBA shots, there's more backend with the PBA shots than the sport shots I've bowled on.  But that doesn't have to be the case.

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Re: a very common question about sportshot
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2007, 12:09:02 PM »
FYI
Sport Bowling Technical Manuel


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Re: a very common question about sportshot
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2007, 07:39:26 PM »
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so u mean a sport shot can have those characteristics right?


In general, sport shots don't react when you miss outside and don't hold when you miss inside like a house shot does.  That's not always true, though.  Miss a little inside on the Cheetah pattern and it just slides, miss a little outside and it reacts too much.  There's a sweet spot where it reacts just right.  Miss a LOT on the Cheetah pattern, and it will jump from the inside and probably gutter on the outside, but there's also that little range where it does the opposite as well.  You really gotta hit it right in the middle.

I don't know if the Sport rules specify double-stripping or single-stripping (or any stripping at all).  The PBA double-strips, though.  In my limited experience with sport shots and PBA shots, there's more backend with the PBA shots than the sport shots I've bowled on.  But that doesn't have to be the case.

SH


thats not true, it all depends on the surface of the lane and the how clean the back ends are. you can bowl on two of the same patterns but one on pro-anvilane and one on a AMF HPL lane. they are going to play two completely different ways. in sport bowling, u always want to find the ball that gives the most error of room a ball that can read the surface true.
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shelley

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Re: a very common question about sportshot
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2007, 10:02:48 PM »
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thats not true, it all depends on the surface of the lane and the how clean the back ends are. you can bowl on two of the same patterns but one on pro-anvilane and one on a AMF HPL lane. they are going to play two completely different ways. in sport bowling, u always want to find the ball that gives the most error of room a ball that can read the surface true.


I agree with that.  My experience is pretty much limited to my home house, though I've bowled in both Sport and PBA leagues.  Some kind of synthetic, though I don't know what kind.

Watching the telecast, they've played on wood lanes and various types of synthetics and they're all very different.  When Pete Weber won at the Etonic Championship in the beginning of the season, it was the Shark on synthetics.  Played real deep inside, they finished the show inside fifth arrow.

When Chris Barnes won playing on wood, they were playing around the fourth arrow.  

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