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Title: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: Centers on October 10, 2006, 11:07:37 AM
Was prebowling, and it wont count thanks to you know who..
Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: strikestriketapped on October 10, 2006, 07:10:43 PM
Congrats, but at least you can say you shot 300.
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: Lane1Redneck on October 10, 2006, 07:12:52 PM
Awsome, congrats.. I shot my first 7oo series last week prebowld..
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: strikestriketapped on October 10, 2006, 07:19:37 PM
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Haha, nice outlook!
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: BrianCRX90 on October 10, 2006, 07:21:56 PM
Notice Mushmouth and his Dad has been quiet latley?

Nice going on your perfect game, counts in my book.
Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: NateNice on October 10, 2006, 07:24:52 PM
OK, I hear people saying that it sucks it doesn't count or one guy messed it up, etc.  But, should it count?

Don't we all agree that pre-bowling is easier in that it's only your shot on the oil, you can stay loose and bowl at your own pace and you don't have the pressures of an audience.  It's not typical league bowling.

If these are all true then your 300 should not count for an honor score.

Congratulations none the less.
Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: Centers on October 10, 2006, 07:30:22 PM
A 300 is a 300.  Mabey I dont deserve a ring, but mabey a plaque?  Im not demanding anything, but for someone that has never shot a 300 would love to have something for it.  It's still 12 frames that you have to strike.  I do see your point though, NateNice.
Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: Centers on October 10, 2006, 07:33:38 PM
And the reason that I am prebowling is because my job is under a strike and now I am forced to work on Friday mornings which the leagues takes place.  It is something that I dont want to do, but I'll have to do it untill the union and Learjet agrees.
Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: gogunners on October 10, 2006, 07:36:13 PM
i think you should get a ring of your own, buy one and get 300 engraved in the back or have 300 somewhere on the ring because the first one is special prebowled or not.

thats what i will be doing when i score my first 300, because in england we dont have the ring systems which really is quite sad!

well done!!
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: NateNice on October 10, 2006, 07:40:25 PM
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A 300 is a 300.  Mabey I dont deserve a ring, but mabey a plaque?  Im not demanding anything, but for someone that has never shot a 300 would love to have something for it.  It's still 12 frames that you have to strike.  I do see your point though, NateNice.


Well, you know you did it and no one can take that away from you.  A ring is nice but in the end it's the personal pride in knowing what you did.

A 300 is a 300 and even if you did it under "easier" circumstances, it shouldn't take anything away from it for you.

And now that you know you've done it, it will be easier next time.
Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 10, 2006, 07:45:04 PM
Sounds to me like it is your fault!  Becaused you bowled a 300 AFTER the rules changed...NOOO...wait a second...it's Bush's fault!  BEcause if Fort Drum where Robby bowls didn't have so many soldiers getting ready to go to Iraq they wouldn't have allowed prebowling so liberally due to all the schedule changes.

IF we weren't in Iraq...Robby wouldn't have bowled his 900s in prebowl and maybe not at all(in crosslane traffic).  There would be no prebowl rules different than what they were and you would have your 900!  So that settles it!

Bush's fault.  No wait...It's Gore's fault...for claiming he invented the "Internet".  If he hadn't said that...then he would have been elected...and then we wouldn't be in Iraq and they wouldn't have allowed prebowling and then you would have your 300 ring!

WAIT no...it's Al Gore's mother's fault...if she didn't have Al Gore he wouldn't have claimed he invented the internet....WAIT...

Well you get the picture...it is definitely SOMEONE else's fault I agree...but I'm not sure who's!  Keep up the great bowling!

REgards,

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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: Centers on October 10, 2006, 07:51:38 PM
This wasnt my first, but I was saying for someone that has never shot one, it would suck for them.
Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: agroves on October 10, 2006, 08:00:17 PM
I hate that rule, but it needs to be there.  Its sad it has come to this.  However, I believe that if you are prebowling as a team, whether you legal team is 3-4-5, then it should count.

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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: Strider on October 10, 2006, 08:27:17 PM
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Don't we all agree that pre-bowling is easier in that it's only your shot on the oil, you can stay loose and bowl at your own pace and you don't have the pressures of an audience.  It's not typical league bowling.


I used to prebowl often because of my rotating shift schedule.  About 20% of the time, I was able to get fresh oil.  The rest of the time, I had to do it on the weekends either getting dry lanes or tons of carrydown after midnight glow bowling or during the week before they oiled for the league.  By my count, I bowled on worse conditions 80% of the time I prebowled.  If you found a good shot and got in rhythm, you had it better.  Find a bad shot, can't get into a good rhythm, or were rushing to get to work and you had it much worse.

Sorry for the hijack.  Congrats on the 300.  And yes, thanks to you know who.  
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: pin-chaser on October 10, 2006, 10:01:00 PM
Worse, I have had as many 300's turned down in the early 80's than I have sanctioned. Those were in leagues and tournaments under santioned events.
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: Nails on October 10, 2006, 10:10:54 PM
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who cares about 300 games, I know guys with 7 and 10 of them that cant even hold a match to me.


As usual, we're impressed with another Mrtourdelane post.    Let the man feel good about his accomplishment!
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: APheLion on October 10, 2006, 10:19:40 PM
i would be happy to bowl 300

its a challenge to myself, a ring is just a representation and recognition from someone else... i dont need that

anyway, grats on the 300
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: RealBowler on October 11, 2006, 10:03:58 AM
Let's all just remember that pre- or post-bowling scores don't count only if bowling unopposed.

 
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The flexibility of USBC Playing Rules allows members to bowl their league sessions before or after their scheduled league times as individuals or teams, commonly referred to as "pre-bowling" or "post-bowling."

USBC will continue to recognize several accomplishments performed in unopposed pre- or post-bowling sessions with its line of "Special Achievement" awards, including game and series honors not in the High Score category. High Score awards will still be issued to teams that pre- or post-bowl their head-to-head matches.





My league won't allow individual pre- or post-bowling.  I don't think it's an individual league rule, I think that comes from the local association.
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Title: Re: Shot 300, but doesnt count
Post by: cgilyeat on October 11, 2006, 10:52:15 AM
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Let's all just remember that pre- or post-bowling scores don't count only if bowling unopposed.

 
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The flexibility of USBC Playing Rules allows members to bowl their league sessions before or after their scheduled league times as individuals or teams, commonly referred to as "pre-bowling" or "post-bowling."

USBC will continue to recognize several accomplishments performed in unopposed pre- or post-bowling sessions with its line of "Special Achievement" awards, including game and series honors not in the High Score category. High Score awards will still be issued to teams that pre- or post-bowl their head-to-head matches.





My league won't allow individual pre- or post-bowling.  I don't think it's an individual league rule, I think that comes from the local association.
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Acutally, it can be a league rule.  Unless the league allows individual pre-bowling (for an adult league), it is prohibited. Here's the current USBC rule:
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Types of Prebowl – Postponements
Rule 111b. Types of prebowl and postponements: [CAQ #99]
1. Bowling in direct opposition.
2. Team unopposed bowling — permitted, unless the league adopts a rule prohibiting this type of
competition.
3. Individual unopposed bowling:
a. Adult leagues, prohibited, unless the league rules state otherwise. [CAQ #119]
b. Youth Leagues, permitted, unless the league rules state otherwise. [CAQ #183]