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Cyril The Syrup

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Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« on: July 24, 2011, 10:27:30 AM »
Due to a chronic wrist injury I have been forced to drop from 16 to 15  now to 14 lbs. With the heavier balls I had no real problems with carry but now having major probs with 14 lb. Biggest issue is leaving the 5 pin, the 5/7 and the 7 pin.

About me: Stroker, revs around 275/300, speed around 15 mph, release gives me more end over end roll than side rotation. Due to wrist pain am not really able to come up the side of the ball, so Im pretty much stuck with this release. Typical drill for me is pin over ring finger , MB kicked 1-2 inches from thumb.

Was hopefull of some drilling patterns /types of ball I should look at,  that may assist me in getting more continuation through the pins and not deflecting away form the 5 pin.

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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2011, 06:42:15 PM »
My first impression is that you need to make a small move outside (assuming THS) so the ball can make a stronger entry. It almost sounds like it's sliding into the pocket and thus deflecting too much.  If you've dropped weight from 16 to 14 lbs your speed may be up a little. Use that to your advantage and play closer to the friction. Good luck to you.
 
 


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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2011, 08:43:22 PM »
You've answered your own question.

 

 You have a wrist situation that doesn't allow you to throw the ball properly

 

 It isn't so much the ball weight as it is your injury.

 

 Take a break and give your injury the proper time to heal.
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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2011, 08:48:43 PM »
No drive. Either a lack of revs or too much speed, or both. As mentioned I would try moving further right and also looking at my ball speed to see if it has increased.


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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2011, 09:03:13 PM »
+1 .... Without seeing you bowl, I have to agree with what Lane suggested here.
 



notclay wrote on 7/24/2011 6:42 PM:

My first impression is that you need to make a small move outside (assuming THS) so the ball can make a stronger entry. It almost sounds like it's sliding into the pocket and thus deflecting too much.  If you've dropped weight from 16 to 14 lbs your speed may be up a little. Use that to your advantage and play closer to the friction. Good luck to you.

 

 


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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 06:42:07 AM »
+2  Exactly what NotClay and Kidlost said above.

 

I have thrown 14lbers and I did have to increase revs and move right a bit. But for me, my carry increased!

 

 Give it a shot and see what happens.


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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 07:24:13 AM »
Moving out is an option and may cure your issue but I like Jugg's suggestion in that you don't have much axis rotation that is the real reason why your carry went down the tubes.  Cause and effect.

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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 07:27:32 AM »
While I agree with most that allowing the wrist time to heal or, better yet, seeing a doctor, there is also that fact that many 14lb.balls have a much higher RG than 15 or 16lb. balls. If you're using the same type of drillings as you did with 16s, this could be one cause for the lack of carry. Try using a lower pin position and a smaller pin-PAP distance.
 
275-300 is a good amount of revs. Could it be that with the wrist pain you are not in that range any more?


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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 03:48:53 PM »
"About me: Stroker, revs around 275/300, speed  around 15 mph, release gives me more end over end roll than side  rotation. Due to wrist pain am not really able to come up the side of  the ball, so Im pretty much stuck with this release."
 
Get balls laid out for this type of roll....see Mo Pinel at bowlingchat.net.  He could help. 


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Re: Dropped ball weight ...cant carry!
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 12:05:10 AM »
These balls look interesting and might fit your situation.