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vanni9283

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Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« on: August 29, 2007, 05:19:30 PM »
Hey folks,

I wanna let you all know that this is my first post on this forum, so I hope you all give me a nice warm welcome.

Anyway, I'm currently considering purchasing a skid/flip style bowling ball for use on a heavier house shot with squirty backends.  I would describe my game to be modeled after that of Marshall Holman (medium ball speed, higher revolutions; I guess you can say I'm a tweener who has power-player characteristics), and my average is around 200 right now.  I am currently throwing a Storm Eraser, but it doesn't seem to be handling the squirty backends real well.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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NJStroker

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Re: Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2007, 02:00:24 PM »
If i were u then, i would go with the shift, the reason y is because its a particle pearl. It is a lot better at carrydown then reactive balls that are shiny or pearls.
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vanni9283

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Re: Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2007, 07:35:10 AM »
Hello again folks.

The coach at my bowling center suggested a No Mercy Beat'n to me. He even drew a diagram of the oil pattern they use at my center to make it easier to explain.

Wanna know the "real" reason my Eraser is "skating". It's because I'm missing inside of what's called the "exit board", or the board of transition from oil to dry that a player needs to be near in order for the ball to finish in the pocket. At our center, the general area falls somewhere between the 5th and the 9th board at 41' (the 6th board was used as the example in our diagram). Miss inside this point, and the ball will skate and go too long before it before it begins to release it's energy (which is what's been happening to me). Miss outside this board and you basically hit an OB zone; the ball will hang and finish somewhere b/t the 3 and 6 pins. So it basically has to do with the condition itself, not the machine (what a dumb thought, huh?).

As for why he thinks a ball with a skid/flip type of motion would be the better option in our house, it's because as a general rule, these type of balls tend to line up better with the synthetic lanes which we bowl on.

Here's our condition: Oil is applied 37' down the lane and is buffed out to 41'. The heaviest of the oil is placed in a 10 to 10 "box" in the front part of the lane from the foul line to just past the arrows (35-40 units) and the oil is considerably lighter in the areas around that "box".

So now you know you know what I'm facing when I'm bowling at my bowling center!
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Re: Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2007, 07:44:35 AM »
quote:
Wanna know the "real" reason my Eraser is "skating". It's because I'm missing inside of what's called the "exit board", or the board of transition from oil to dry that a player needs to be near in order for the ball to finish in the pocket. At our center, the general area falls somewhere between the 5th and the 9th board at 41' (the 6th board was used as the example in our diagram). Miss inside this point, and the ball will skate and go too long before it before it begins to release it's energy (which is what's been happening to me). Miss outside this board and you basically hit an OB zone; the ball will hang and finish somewhere b/t the 3 and 6 pins. So it basically has to do with the condition itself, not the machine (what a dumb thought, huh?).


Ive bowled on a lot of patterns....lots of house shots...and have never heard this before.  This makes absolutely no sense to me.  The ball hits an ob area...and hang area....but getting a strong pearl is going to minimize this effect?
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Martin710

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Re: Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2007, 07:52:34 AM »
Hi Dan Chambers, What would be the proper drill and surface prep for a Storm Shift on skirty backends?
Martin
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Re: Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2007, 12:30:05 PM »
the best option that i can think of is a no mercy beat'n. thats the most angular look your going to get on a heavier shot, espicaly with dirty backends. but as a general rule, your not going to want a skid flip ball for sloppy backends, its kind of redundant. you want something that skips the midlane, and has most, if not all its reaction in the backend. that type of reaction would barely be ideal on fresh med shot with clean backends.... you want it on backends that are notoriously squirty? imo your just asking for disappointment in your next purchase...
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vanni9283

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Re: Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2007, 10:03:07 PM »
I'm probably gonna end up going with the Beat'n. I was at the pro shop tonight and I showed the pro shop operator the diagram of the lane condition that my coach drew. He said what I'm looking for is something that not necessarily a "skid/flip" motion, but more of a "hard arc" motion. Obviously I don't want something that starts to roll at my feet, but yet, I also don't want something that's gonna be too skid/flippy, b/c then I'll end up washing out a lot. I also told him that my coach thought the NMB was a good choice, and he agreed.

Don't get me wrong, I still think my Eraser is a great ball; it has good length with a nice, arcing backend. However I don't think it's strong enough to handle the new condition that we're bowling on.

The only ? that remains is whether I should buy it online, or whether I should buy it directly from the pro shop. Any suggestions?
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BrianCRX90

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Re: Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2007, 10:36:43 PM »
The Eraser was one awesome ball. In fact the best ball I've ever used. I'd suggest a particle pearl, that way you can get length with unreal backend. If you like Storm and the Eraser, the Shift is a terrific ball to start.  The original Agent also is.   There is also bunches of others from other manufactures.

As for the price your going to have to research the prices and drilling costs of the pro shop versus buying one online then getting it drilled. Either one could be a better deal over the other.
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vanni9283

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Re: Skid/Flip ball for squirty backends
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2007, 11:02:37 PM »
I asked my coach about the Shift and he thinks that's too aggressive a ball for me and for our bowling center.
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