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Title: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: J_L_B on June 07, 2008, 05:09:40 AM
Ebonite Hook Again Chamber + Bully Sample Core + Extra Ball Plug + 10 months =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuh9nz3LeGg
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Edited on 6/7/2008 2:13 PM
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: SKC on June 07, 2008, 01:14:07 PM

Dude............!!!

U just made my day.. LOL..!!!

Absolutely awesome..!!!

U planning on punching holes in it???

Props on the good job and for the post..

Peace

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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: axeweldr on June 07, 2008, 01:14:31 PM
Love to see that thing roll.  We had people making there own spinners, drill press'.  Now with the natural progression of things, now bowling balls.  LOL  It's kinda funny, but I do want to see a video of this one.

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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: lsf_21 on June 07, 2008, 01:18:08 PM
you gonna drill that baby?

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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Moon57 on June 07, 2008, 01:57:37 PM
That is, hands down, The best bowling video I have ever seen. LMFAOROF. How bout putting it in a determinator and seeing what ya got?
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: RevZiLLa on June 07, 2008, 02:04:48 PM
Awesome!

I wonder what USBC would charge to sanction it?
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Hogsharley on June 07, 2008, 02:08:10 PM
That's the coolest looking ball Jon. What core did you put in it or did you even make your own core? Why did it take 10 months?
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: J_L_B on June 07, 2008, 02:10:41 PM
On edit: didn't realize thebowlchannel.com video hadn't completely encoded.

Check out youtube instead!!!

It has the Bully core in it.

I had a display core with a riser pin and everything.

Stuck it in the bottom of a chamber and started pouring extra plug in it.

10 months later it was full and it took 2 weeks of using a plug cutter and Haus resurfacer to get it round and of legal size.
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Edited on 6/7/2008 2:14 PM
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: ErikC on June 07, 2008, 02:20:12 PM
That was great.  Good Job!

Erik
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Hogsharley on June 07, 2008, 02:21:29 PM
It rolls pretty good. Great job!
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: JessN16 on June 07, 2008, 02:35:32 PM
This is nuts. Is that just plain ball plugging, or is the coverstock reactive in any way?

You've got a great hockey-stick move out of that ball and I'm shocked to see ball plugging work that well. Kind of makes me take a second thought about the "core" half of the core-cover combo.

Great job!

Jess
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: BrunsNick on June 07, 2008, 02:41:56 PM
Looks like you have bottom weight. LOL
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Juggernaut on June 07, 2008, 02:43:21 PM
You da MAN!

  Now just watch.  You'll shoot an honor score with the da*n thing and EVERYBODY will want you to make them one
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: SVstar34 on June 07, 2008, 02:47:39 PM
That ball is awesome for one reason

Bully core
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: keglerx on June 07, 2008, 02:48:42 PM
Awesome...Great
What are you waiting on?
Roll your own
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: themagician on June 07, 2008, 02:53:19 PM
How much does that beast weigh?
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Moon57 on June 07, 2008, 03:22:14 PM
Dam, and I've been pouring my extra plug material into mini ice cube trays.
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: J_L_B on June 07, 2008, 03:28:21 PM
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How much does that beast weigh?
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We used the plug cutter to a predetermined depth (based on flushing the plug cutter on a brand new ball) on all sides and resurfaced it. Before doing that it was 16.5 pounds. After it is 15.5 pounds.

Here's the kicker.....before drilling....it had 9oz top weight. I think either the sample cores aren't "really" the cores used in balls or the orientation of our core in the ball was more towards the top, creating a "bit" more top weight.

The ball is completely plug material. No filler, no reactive.

Still working on a name.....most people say it looks like a planet and have been suggesting Uranus be the name, I'm not sold on it yet.

It does have a funky roll on it. Hooks more than I thought it would.
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Edited on 6/7/2008 3:29 PM
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: J_Mac on June 07, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
Jon, I've been led to believe that the sample cores aren't full density...  does this ball even have enough dynamic imbalance to flare?
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: J_L_B on June 07, 2008, 03:45:29 PM
It does flare, in fact I think it had about 4" of flare. I'll check next time I toss it.
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: shelley on June 07, 2008, 04:11:16 PM
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Here's the kicker.....before drilling....it had 9oz top weight. I think either the sample cores aren't "really" the cores used in balls or the orientation of our core in the ball was more towards the top, creating a "bit" more top weight.


Read this (http://"http://900global.com/tech/BowlingBallProductionDesign") article from 900 Global.  Very small shifts in the core lead to noticeable changes in top weight.  You could not even eyeball it close enough to guarantee "decent" specs.

SH
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: chitown on June 07, 2008, 04:54:53 PM
That's awesome!
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: IHFN on June 07, 2008, 05:15:25 PM
That is quite possibly the coolest thing I've seen this year.  So, uh, what surface adjustments have you made to it?  
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Juggernaut on June 07, 2008, 05:33:50 PM
Check out the throw at 1:40.  As the ball goes down the lane, it appears you can actually see the wobble before it hits the pins!
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Skizriz on June 07, 2008, 06:44:41 PM
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Check out the throw at 1:40. As the ball goes down the lane, it appears you can actually see the wobble before it hits the pins!
 


Pretty neat wobble effect. It looks as the frames per second, and the design and rotation of the ball matched up perfectly for the effect.


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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: BeansProShop on June 07, 2008, 06:56:35 PM
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Looks like you have bottom weight. LOL
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: J_L_B on June 07, 2008, 07:23:35 PM
quote:
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Check out the throw at 1:40. As the ball goes down the lane, it appears you can actually see the wobble before it hits the pins!
 


Pretty neat wobble effect. It looks as the frames per second, and the design and rotation of the ball matched up perfectly for the effect.



There was no effect added to the video. What you see is REAL wobble. The ball has some serious imbalance.

Rolling it real slow for fun this afternoon I was able to get the ball to go from about 3 board on the right side to left of the head-pin within the last 5 feet of the lane. It was crazy to see. I only wish I had my video camera with me.
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Hook on June 07, 2008, 11:02:35 PM
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Still working on a name.....most people say it looks like a planet and have been suggesting Uranus be the name, I'm not sold on it yet.


Don't do that. People will keep asking you if they can see Uranus. Some people might even want to stick their fingers in Uranus.
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: SVstar34 on June 07, 2008, 11:09:23 PM
I'd love to be able to make my own bowling balls
I could name them whatever I want and give them what ever color i'd want
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Crankenstein300 on June 07, 2008, 11:09:29 PM
That is way too cool. Did it end up ruining the Hook Again chamber? I have a chamber that I want to keep usable but I can get a Bully display core as well so I am seriously consider doing this.
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: J_L_B on June 08, 2008, 12:58:37 AM
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That is way too cool. Did it end up ruining the Hook Again chamber? I have a chamber that I want to keep usable but I can get a Bully display core as well so I am seriously consider doing this.


After we started pouring plug in the chamber (about 1/4 of the way) we realized we didn't line the inside with anything to prevent the plug from sticking to the chamber, so we lined the remainder of the chamber with vaseline.

When it was time to remove the ball, there was some problems where the plug had stuck to the plastic and damaging the chamber was necessary to getting the ball out. Not completely damaging, just a few cracks around the perimeter.

I would suggest lining the inside with vaseline before you pour any plug and make sure to keep an air-tight seal ( we taped the edges with packing tape) until the entire ball is dry.

Good Luck!!
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: JessN16 on June 08, 2008, 02:40:34 AM
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I'd love to be able to make my own bowling balls
I could name them whatever I want and give them what ever color i'd want
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The only problem is you couldn't use it in competition, as it's not USBC-approved.

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JLB, what you did basically was build a Legends/LaneMasters ball with a Columbia core (i.e., coverstock all the way through). That was a helluva research project and there was a lot to learn from this. And I can't believe how much this ball hooks -- kind of brings into question just what ball plug is made of...

Jess
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Rev_O on June 08, 2008, 03:27:55 AM
you should name it "The Triple B" for Brandon's Bodatious Ball.
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: dizzyfugu on June 08, 2008, 04:08:14 AM
This is awesome! Congratulations to this great task, and also the nice documentation. That's guerilla bowling

A planet name is surely a good choice, when I first saw the ball it reminded me much of Jupiter or Saturn and its cloud/storm rings in the atmosphere.

Wow!
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Locke on June 08, 2008, 04:08:33 AM
That is awesome. I love the Arch that ball gets. So smooth.
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: johns811 on June 08, 2008, 07:24:51 AM
That is pretty cool. After drilling what was the final weighting? Make me wonder why get so concerned about 1/4 or 1/2 oz side/top weighting on balls.
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Mike Austin on June 08, 2008, 09:32:54 AM
Nice job Jon!!!

Out there in Cali, you got plenty of sand to make the "particle" version.  I'll be looking for that just in time for the Tour Trials next year!!  I'll bet the Insite and Banger guys have some "real" cores laying around you could use.


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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: T-GOD on June 08, 2008, 10:46:52 AM
Jon, that is just awesome and goes to show you what a little ingenuity can do for you...!! Great video to boot.

p.s. btw, what's the hardness on that..? =:^D
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Motogp69 on June 08, 2008, 02:17:14 PM
I think one point not brought up yet was the actual color scheme itself and how it seems to really make it easy to read ball motion. Making your own ball in itself was awesome, but the way the colors are laid out makes it really easy to see what the ball is doing as it travels down the lane. I don't know if you can patent and idea like that, but if you can I would since it really does aid in reading ball motion.
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: BeansProShop on June 08, 2008, 02:40:36 PM
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quote:
Still working on a name.....most people say it looks like a planet and have been suggesting Uranus be the name, I'm not sold on it yet.


Don't do that. People will keep asking you if they can see Uranus. Some people might even want to stick their fingers in Uranus.



LOL!!!

You beat me too that one!!

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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: Pupubowlingcho on June 08, 2008, 06:06:58 PM
maybe next time you can make a clear one
Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: CharlieBrown on June 12, 2008, 11:40:05 AM
WOW, good job!
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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: BeansProShop on June 12, 2008, 02:55:32 PM
JLB....

If you take the ball to a Grave Headstone business. They can engrave a logo from a jpg on the ball.


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Title: Re: So I made a Bowling Ball......
Post by: pegleg42090 on June 12, 2008, 05:50:15 PM
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maybe next time you can make a clear one