Post by: CharlieBrown on January 17, 2009, 01:16:37 AM
Guess from now on I will only need to bring my XXXL to practice huh?!?! My local centre is only five minutes drive away, the next nearest three are all 35-45 minutes away, so I don’t have much choice.
On another note, in the last eight months our league pattern had been long and heavy with next to no movement at the backend. It is also very tight and out-of-bound outside the 8 board. Three weeks ago the mechanic and our league president had been experimenting different patterns, and have settled with (for now) 32 feet. It’s not so bad cos the volume is med-heavy, and it holds up pretty well. Still out of bound outside, but if I control my ball speed well, there is 4-5 board area at break point. My score has gone up a bit, so all is not lost!
Have your centre been cutting cost as well?
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Post by: Buzzhead on January 18, 2009, 09:27:33 PM
I REGULARLY drive 1.5 hours to practice in a different center. (then again I have no life, no one but my kids when they decide to visit and no pets) so I guess I can afford it.
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Post by: themagician on January 18, 2009, 09:46:14 PM
They strip the backends on the other days/nights. Its absolutely garbage here, the shot is pretty good fresh but once it breaks down its bad and if your on a night where they aren't fresh forget about it.
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Post by: lsf_21 on January 18, 2009, 10:02:42 PM
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Post by: Big Jake on January 19, 2009, 10:44:05 AM
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...the lanes will only be dressed three times a week
That sucks, btw, how much does it really cost to apply conditioner??? freaking cheapskate
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Post by: Hamburglar on January 19, 2009, 12:01:42 PM
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...the lanes will only be dressed three times a week
That sucks, btw, how much does it really cost to apply conditioner??? freaking cheapskate
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I was thinking the same thing...is lane conditioner so expensive that they can't afford to oil more than three times/week??? If they are in that bad of shape financially, they may as well close the doors...
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Post by: abrown on January 19, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 19, 2009, 12:14:07 PM
I've been going to a center with that philosophy for 4 years in preparing for the upcoming recession/depression?
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Post by: on January 19, 2009, 12:55:31 PM
A place with good conditions has happy bowlers.
Happy bowlers come back during the week and spend their money practicing, buying soft drinks, you name it... Chase them away, and find out how difficult it is to get them back.
They'd be better off slightly raising the cost for open play, especially during prime hours, with discounts during less busy parts of the day. But to take away the reason that bowlers come to their establishment (instead of a competitor) is stupid.
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Post by: 9andaWiggle on January 19, 2009, 01:31:47 PM
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another great saving plan is don't oil the left side!
I've been going to a center with that philosophy for 4 years in preparing for the upcoming recession/depression?
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I don't think this is a good long-term strategy. If bowlers are like they are reputed to be (just want to show up, have fun, and SHOOT BIG SCORES while NOT HAVING TO THINK ABOUT OR ADJUST TO THE LANE CONDITION) then this guy is doomed. What he saves in oil he will spend double on kleenex from all thy crying and boo-hooing. He will be lucky to have one league left at the end of the season. Just look at Sport Bowling and the PBA leagues, that's about all he will have left on his regular leagues - the same 3 guys that actually show up to BOWL and accept challenging conditions.
Seriously though, I'd think he could at least he could go back to the short oil days and apply 24 foot of oil to keep the heads playable and if not strip, then at least drag the backends to help out a little there.
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Post by: on January 19, 2009, 01:45:30 PM
The easy conditions that produce inflated scores are probably here to stay because the majority of bowlers don't want to know that they'd struggle on tough conditions. The customers can and will take their money elsewhere.
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Post by: MikeIII on January 19, 2009, 05:00:26 PM
If my local lanes oiled only 3 times a week it would be ugly. The shot doesn't hold for a game let alone a few days.
Post by: CharlieBrown on January 20, 2009, 05:19:17 AM
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What, is the president of your league a sheep? Pull out your contract and see if you have a clause in there about lane conditions. Ask him how much "cost savings" he'll realize when you pull your league now and he has 20 + lanes sitting empty in prime time with no bar and grill income either. Fight back!!!!!
Follow up on my original post –
I wish it’s that easy. The centre is catered for family open-play we only have two leagues (Mons & Thurs) and both are not sanctioned leagues. Sanctioned leagues are few and far between at this part of the world. Also, our league really doesn’t have any high-calibre bowlers it’s more like a ‘fun’ league. I guess I just have to take what’s given and suck it up!
I don’t mind tough league patterns, as long as they are consistent week-to-week so I can have a chance to work out how to score on the pattern. I only bring three balls (inc. spare) to league, and it’s frustrating sometimes when you’ve brought balls for short-pattern, only to find the lanes are dressed long and tight (or vice versa)
Yesterday I decided to drive to another centre to practice (35 mins away) rather than my local centre which is 5 mins away. I was practicing at that centre last week and the lanes were dressed (easy THS) but yesterday, guess what, the lanes weren’t dressed! The lanes were dry at the front and carry-down at the back due to all the open-play on Sunday. I ended up just using my XXXL and practice my spare game.
If I wanted to practice spares, I would have just gone to my local centre rather than to drive 35 minutes. Just feel cheated and wasted my hard-earned cash!
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Post by: Hamburglar on January 20, 2009, 07:34:27 AM
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That's the absolute WRONG AREA to cut costs on. Over the course of a month their savings aren't as big as they think, and what will really happen is that they will also cut their profits!!
A place with good conditions has happy bowlers.
Happy bowlers come back during the week and spend their money practicing, buying soft drinks, you name it... Chase them away, and find out how difficult it is to get them back.
They'd be better off slightly raising the cost for open play, especially during prime hours, with discounts during less busy parts of the day. But to take away the reason that bowlers come to their establishment (instead of a competitor) is stupid.
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Post by: jbuzz31 on January 20, 2009, 03:19:02 PM
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another great saving plan is don't oil the left side!
I've been going to a center with that philosophy for 4 years in preparing for the upcoming recession/depression?
REgards,
Luckylefty
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i hear you there. one center i bowl at its oiled out to about the 9 board on the left and the 6 board on the right. it just isnt cool.
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Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on January 20, 2009, 07:14:21 PM
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Lisa, didnt you tell me a few years ago you had one league where it was always a Chefs surprise on what kinda oil conditions you were going to get for the nite?
Yes, and that league moved to the high end of the same house and now they bowl on a standard house shot instead of the fun stuff. Boo!
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