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Gene J Kanak

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Some people will never learn.
« on: June 03, 2003, 12:08:05 AM »
My fellow bowlers,

  I have noticed a pattern emerging over the past 10 years or so, and it is only getting worse. It seems that a very large percentage of the bowling world is more interested in how many boards the bowling ball is covering, rather than how many pins it is knocking down. I know it's shocking, but it's true.
  I have a friend who falls into this category. He owns four bowling balls, all very aggressive, and states that he really needs to find a ball that will hook more and allow him to open up the lane. Keep in mind, two of his primary balls are the Granite Gargoyle and the X-Factor Deuce! His style is raw; he cocks his wrist greatly and digs into the ball as hard as he can at the foul line, sometimes nearly falling over from the effort. He carries an average around 180, but misses an average of at least two spares per game. But he in not the only one.
  In my travels to tournaments and during league nights alike, I often see several people using the latest hook monster chucking the ball wide and grinning from ear to ear as it comes roaring back. Of course, the ball only finds the pocket 1 out of 7 times, usually leaving a 7-10 in the process due to the extreme angle that the bowler is playing. Or if it's not the 7-10, it's just the 10, which might just as well be a split because the bowler has no concept and, it appears, no interest in picking it up anyhow.
  The most-laughable part of this equation is the fact that some people are actually impressed with this way of bowling. I love it when someone nudges me and tells me to 'watch so and so throw the ball, they're really good'. So, I watch so and so do exactly what I've described above, and then prepare for the shocked and awed look on the person's face when I tell them that I'm not very impressed.
  Now that I'm off of my soapbox, I'll get to the point. I'm not saying that hooking the lane is a bad thing. I have a friend who turns the ball so damn hard that I'm waiting for his hand to catch fire from all of the friction. And yes, it does look extremely impressive when he hits the pocket with such authority that it carries strikes on the lanes on either side of him as well as his own. But what impresses me more about this friend is not his ability to hook the ball, but his ability to make his spares when he leaves them.
  I realize that many of you know this, but to those who don't, hooking the ball is not the name of the game ladies and gentlemen. The name of the game is finding the best way to score on given conditions. Sometimes that means standing left, throwing right, gripping and ripping and using every board from coast to coast to get the job done. However, there are other times when playing hard and straight dead at the pocket is the way to go.
  In my scratch-match play league this year I was bowling with 15 people whom I had never bowled with before. Most of them hooked the ball quite a bit more than I did, but with good control. Still, they seemed to be shocked and amazed when I would point the ball straight up second arrow at arround 18 mph and rip the rack to beat them. It was almost as if they felt that my shots were of lesser quality, just because they were straighter. Forget about the fact that I hit my mark dead on the money each and every shot.
  It just cracks me up that some people think that it is cooler to hook the ball and shoot decent, than it is to play straight and score. It's the same thing that was brought up in a post a while back about whether you'd rather string strikes or be a good spare shooter. Sure, we'd all like to string strikes, but if you don't make your spares in the instances where you fail to strike, you're done. End of story.
  When did playing straighter become 'uncool'? I don't no the answer to that, but what I do know is that one of the premier players on the PBA Tour is also one of the straighter players. Sure, Rudy Revs and Robert Smith are fun to watch, but Walter Ray and his rocket to the pocket seem to be cashing a lot of checks these days.
  I guess all I'm saying is learn how to hook the ball and play straight, learn how to make your spares, then try to be smart enough to know when to use what you've learned.

Gene J. Kanak
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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2003, 03:18:48 PM »
Seriously Gene,
Why don't you tell everyone how you really feel? lol
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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2003, 03:51:10 PM »
Amen.

The real travesty is all of the juniors I see playing nothumb in order to get maximum crank on the ball.

I'm not condemming nothumbers, I know a couple really decent 2 finger bowlers. However, the great majority of them are not doing themselves any favors by bowling that way.

The best way to cure people of the "Hook = God" syndrome? Beat them.

I take great pride in slaughtering people on a down & in with my Red pearl hammer.

Gene J Kanak

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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2003, 04:20:22 PM »
O,

  What are you complaining about, I was talking about you when I said that it impressed me that you know how to control your ball and that you make your spares. Except maybe for 10-pins in the Chicagoland Open. But then again, who am I to talk? I missed my mark on every shot for three games in a row when we bowled together. lol.

leftside,

  If you were talking to what I had to say, I was not trying to claim that this was only a problem with juniors. I see the same thing happen with adults all of the time in league and tournaments.


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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2003, 04:24:17 PM »
Well, if the lanemen put some OIL on the lanes, these bowlers would not be hooking the whole lane all the time..!! =:^D

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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2003, 04:29:13 PM »
Or if they took away the "adult bumber" and forced bowlers to play the lane correctly,

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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2003, 05:04:20 PM »
Gene,

If I may offer my 2 cents:
I think the people you are complaining about are, in my mind, playing the "game" of bowling. I think we here at ballreviews in general are concerned with the "sport" of bowling. I believe this to be, in essence, the subject matter here. I do agree wholeheartedly with your premise and your conclusion.

I have always thrown a larger than averagehook, not because I wanted to, but solely because when I threw a smaller one, all carry power went out the window. Over the past 2 years, I have finally (I think) learned enough about bowling and ball to be able to reduce my hook and maintain a semblance of hitting and carrying power. It's been a long tough road. So, I'd say don't condemn anyone that you see throwing a big hook, without knowing their game. I am still not where I want to be but I am making progress.

Most bowlers are not educated in the finer points of bowling the way we can be here on the internet by sharing all we can with others.

"None are so blind as those who will not see."

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2003, 05:06:52 PM »
Might be walking on thin ice, but I find that there are far more black bowlers that fall into this trap.  99 percent of them that walk into the shop come in, and the first things out of their mouths is "What's the biggest hooking ball you have in here?"  Then they buy it and proceed to go see how much they can make it hook, regardless of what it does at the pins.  I think we'd see far more good black bowlers if they could overcome this chronic problem.  The black race has a greater athletic ability, I believe, and it's shown in basketball and football, and they also have a great drive to succeed in sports.  If they could stay away from the trap of having a ball that's bigger and better, I really believe they could harness their natural ability.  Don't hate me!
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2003, 05:13:04 PM »
Charlest,

I did not mean to sound as if I meant to condemn people who throw a big hook. As I said, I know some people who turn the ball a great deal and do so very effectively. I'm not stating that all bowlers who throw big hooks fall into the category that I described. I'm strictly talking about people who ONLY want to hook the ball, and do so quite ineffectively just for the sake of doing so. If you throw the ball coast to coast because that gives you the best chance of scoring, that's great. I don't always play hard and straight either. When the lanes require it, I will stand left and chuck right just like everyone else. The people that I was referring to are the ones that will do that at all times just because they think it looks impressive, rather than adjusting to what the lanes are giving.

T-God,

  While I agree that oil is not always plentiful, I think we both know that there  is usually enough out there to find some kind of shot. Again, I'm not referring to these situations. If that's what the lanes are giving, go for it. I'm talking about the people who stick with that shot for the sake of covering boards only.

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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2003, 05:15:52 PM »
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Might be walking on thin ice, but I find that there are far more black bowlers that fall into this trap.  


Yes, you not only walked on thin ice, but you just fell through it. The type of generalization you just made is neither accurate nor productive to spread. "Dumb Bowler" disease is prevalent across all demographics. Just look at 90% of the posts in this forum!

Anyway, learn from this and move on.    


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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2003, 05:20:04 PM »
Kudos, Steven, lol, I never say what I mean to!  Maybe I should say it's what stands out to me the most.  I see a bunch of white people that try to yank the stuff out of the ball too, but they never come in and ask what hooks the most.  I'm not explaining this well, I'm just gonna shut up before I dig the hole deeper . . .
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charlest

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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2003, 05:53:40 PM »
Gene,

I wasn't trying to imply that you were condemning all big hookers. I got foot- in-mouth disease, not quite as bad as Hamster. Our natural tendency is to do such. It took me 4 years to convince a teammate who did exactly what you were saying - cover as many boards as possible - to NOT do that. When he saw me outscoring him by a 8-10 pins per game, he wised up, but never admitted to being convinced by me.

Like I said, they are playing a game; we who do what we must, are playing the sport. BIG DIFFERENCE!
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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2003, 05:56:51 PM »
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I'm just gonna shut up before I dig the hole deeper . . .
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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2003, 06:17:48 PM »
Lol, charlest, I need help!  You ought to read my book though, I'm REALLY good at getting my characters into trouble with each other.  I can always say the wrong things at the wrong time without meaning to, and I'm GOOD at it!
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Re: Some people will never learn.
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2003, 07:05:00 PM »
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