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mainzer

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league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« on: November 24, 2008, 05:15:33 PM »
Do you guys have seprerate Aresenals? Like for example three balls that only go to to leagues then another group that go to tourneys?

I have two different aresenals ut they do overlap i.e. Hercules, Awesome Flip, and HPP.
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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 01:28:13 AM »
I don't take my Avalanche to where I bowl for league, only to tourneys or different houses.  But I still use the same stuff for leagues and tourneys because I'm limited on equipment.
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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 03:25:18 AM »
I prefer to use my track arsenal [KE (pd/ at oob), tantrum (stacked at 2k), Kinetic (pu at 1k w/ polish) on the THS, but when i travel for tourney's i use the ebonite [gamebreaker (pu at 500k + polish, playmaker (pd at 1k), raid (pu at 4k) and so far its been pretty successfull. Even though ebo bought track i seem to get better lines to the pocket w/ carry on those tougher conditions. Also a polished absolute inferno (GOTO BALL) for when the lanes are burned up or i am practically lost at reading the lanes.

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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 05:15:49 AM »
I like to keep my skid/flip balls for league THS and my strong arc balls for tourney. I learned that balls that has the skid/flip reaction tends to be uncontrollable for me on more difficult conditions that's whey I switch to a ball that's more arching and less aggressive in the backend.
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Goof1073

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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2008, 05:26:59 AM »
Yes, I have two seperate arsenals so to speak.  For the most part the core balls are the same...I just replace the aging version with a new one and down-grade the old to a league ball.
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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2008, 06:52:53 AM »
I pretty much do as neverbackdown_x7x.  I use my trusty Nighthawk M2 90% of the time in league and maybe my Tsunami if the back ends are moving too much.  I don't bowl house shot tournaments, so the requirements are often different.  There is usually a higher volume of oil on the tournaments I go to, and the back ends are usually fresh, so stronger surfaces and arc/control is necessary.  Even if I see dry, I'm more likely to take my B/G Centaur over something like the M2.  As much as I use the M2 on house conditions, my trusty Tour Power sees as much action on tournament conditions.
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CharlieBrown

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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2008, 07:13:43 AM »
Sort of.... only bring 3 balls to league(2 + spare)

Usually bring 7 to 8 to tourneys. (Don't play that often though)
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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2008, 07:32:58 AM »
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janderson

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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2008, 07:56:58 AM »
What kind of tournaments? Most league bowlers - even those with large arsenals -  participate in their city and state tournaments and maybe a 9-pin no-tap from time to time. THS, THS, THS, and ... THS. Why would the arsenal change?

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Necromancer

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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2008, 08:09:32 AM »
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What kind of tournaments? Most league bowlers - even those with large arsenals -  participate in their city and state tournaments and maybe a 9-pin no-tap from time to time. THS, THS, THS, and ... THS. Why would the arsenal change?

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LOL your state must be easy to bowl in then.  Our city tournaments have a reverse block shot that is hard as hell.  Our local tournaments all use PBA shots.  Our state tournaments use something similar to a US Open shot.  You are living the high-life.
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janderson

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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2008, 08:19:55 AM »
I stopped bowling handicap tournaments ages ago, and will avoid any competition on a house shot, so no I don't have it easy, but thanks for thinking about me

Flatter patterns are generally perceived to be reverse blocks, most centers don't have the proper equipment to put down PBA patterns, and you absolutely must send me a link to your state organization's pattern graph for the state tournament last year. At least, I would hope any state organization forward-looking enough and working hard towards the integrity of the sport would advertise the pattern graph on a web site as the USBC does for the national events.

Understand that I'm speaking in general. The vast majority of city and state organizations don't expend the effort to create a challenging scoring environment. They just take whatever the house puts down. City and State Master events may, but few bowlers participate in the masters events.

Maybe that's a good way to phrase the original question. How many bowlers take a different arsenal to their state's masters event versus league night?
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Necromancer

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Re: league aresenal VS tourney aresenal
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2008, 08:49:48 AM »
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I stopped bowling handicap tournaments ages ago, and will avoid any competition on a house shot, so no I don't have it easy, but thanks for thinking about me

Flatter patterns are generally perceived to be reverse blocks, most centers don't have the proper equipment to put down PBA patterns, and you absolutely must send me a link to your state organization's pattern graph for the state tournament last year. At least, I would hope any state organization forward-looking enough and working hard towards the integrity of the sport would advertise the pattern graph on a web site as the USBC does for the national events.

Understand that I'm speaking in general. The vast majority of city and state organizations don't expend the effort to create a challenging scoring environment. They just take whatever the house puts down. City and State Master events may, but few bowlers participate in the masters events.

Maybe that's a good way to phrase the original question. How many bowlers take a different arsenal to their state's masters event versus league night?
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Look up PA State Tournament and the Greensburg tournament.  For the PA State Tournament it is over 2 houses.  One house was easy for me as I got the top 2 games in the first 2 games with 240's.  The other house on day 2 sucks.  It is on wood and the wood isn't even even.  It has like holes in it LOL (not kidding).  My damn ball bounced on the lane after it was reving LOL!!

Greensburg tournament is the hardest tournament ever still for me, even more than any PBA condition.  I heard it was a reverse block.  Lots of gutter balls are seen in that POS tournament.  Bowling a 200 is considered godlike.
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