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nospareball

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Posting the shot
« on: March 18, 2009, 02:07:29 PM »
"Post the shot" is one of the most given pieces of advice (besides a free armswing) you see around here when looking at comments on user videos.  Now I understand the value of having balance at the line, it allows you to better repeat shots and get more leverage on the ball.  But why would posting a shot until the ball leaves the deck help any?

I generally have decent balance at the line, but I do have a habit of stepping out to the right after my ball is thrown.  It's not that I'm falling off the shot, it's just something I've always done.  I could stay posted, with my knee bent arm swinging if I wanted to, but why should I if the ball is already gone?
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Re: Posting the shot
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 10:12:44 PM »
i have noticed... even though im not "falling off the shot" that i don't come through the ball as clean. If i stand there and make the effort not to move, i get a lot cleaner movement down lane... resulting in better pin action. That's me personally... idk if you noticed leaving a lot of corners... but i noticed posting kicked the corners for me
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Re: Posting the shot
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 10:22:35 PM »
For me, it's not good enough to step out of the finish position until the ball is at least half way downlane.  In general, I lost balance if I don't do that.  Whether or not that means I also lost leverage is another thing.

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Re: Posting the shot
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 10:23:59 PM »
i do the same nospareball..i dont fall off the shot but step right somewhat after ball gets going down the lane..i dont notice much difference when i stand there until ball clears pins, thats just me though..
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Re: Posting the shot
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 10:51:56 AM »
one of the main reasons, and i have talked about this with my coach (gold coach, pat Costello) when you know that you are going to walk something or step off the shot, you may not be getting your full potential out of the shot and actually you may and can be stepping out of the shot before you are done throwing the ball. even though you may not feel this. by sticking the shot you are not worried about walking it out then you get better leverage at the line and your carry will show it at times when you need it. when you pop up you loose leverage which will eventually cause carry problems and consistency
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nospareball

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Re: Posting the shot
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 12:05:16 AM »
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one of the main reasons, and i have talked about this with my coach (gold coach, pat Costello) when you know that you are going to walk something or step off the shot, you may not be getting your full potential out of the shot and actually you may and can be stepping out of the shot before you are done throwing the ball. even though you may not feel this. by sticking the shot you are not worried about walking it out then you get better leverage at the line and your carry will show it at times when you need it. when you pop up you loose leverage which will eventually cause carry problems and consistency
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It's not a conscious thought that I have, it's just something that I do.  I think it's to get a better angle on watching the break point.  I do notice that if I play way outside I don't step out of the shot, probably because I'm already looking straight at my breakpoint.

I don't have perfect balance, but I know a bad shot when I throw one.  If I fall off a shot, or don't have balance at the line it generally results in a bad shot.  I do see the merit in what you're saying though, I'll try posting a few shots and see what happens.
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JessN16

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Re: Posting the shot
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2009, 12:11:35 AM »
Thankfully balance hasn't been a tremendous issue with me, even though I'm a big guy.

But this past week, I was having problems keeping the ball on line to my target, so I started consciously "posting" the shot. And I jumped 70 pins the last game.

Now, I'm not going to get that kind of improvement if I post every shot of every game, and my ability to post a shot depends partially on whether my tired knees want to get involved in the process on that given night. But it helped Tuesday.

My issue Tuesday was I was cutting off the arm swing. I was being tentative because I was (a) on one of our house's tougher pairs and (b) my ball reaction was about as bad as it's been in a month. Posting the shot forced me to follow all the way through and make sure my hand opened correctly through release. It also helped with my timing, because when I post, if I'm doing anything wrong in the timing department it will become very apparent, very quickly what exactly I'm doing wrong.

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Re: Posting the shot
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2009, 01:07:59 AM »
You lose leverage and accuracy.

JessN16

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Re: Posting the shot
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2009, 01:38:49 AM »
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You lose leverage and accuracy.


If what, you do or don't post? I don't know which one of us you're responding to.

Jess