Author Topic: Spare ball or no spare ball (Read 10464 times)

stormerjip · « **on:** July 22, 2003, 05:48:55 PM »

I just wanted to see what kind of response there might be on this. I don't believe in using a spare ball because I can get the ball to go just as straight as a plastic ball. I might not get as many spares as i should but i didn't when i tried to use the spare ball. i just don't see why to take an extra ball when u can just flatten ur wrist and go just as straight on the balls.

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2003, 09:09:34 AM »

personal preference, if you can throw straight at spares.....you should be fine. However, the plastic ball will ALWAYS go straighter if thrown the same way. It also gives you an alternative if you don't want to change your wrist position much......
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Pye · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2003, 09:17:19 AM »

If your happy not using a spare ball then I wouldn't take the time. If you think you could pickup one more spare per game if you used a dedicated spare ball with a little practice it's worth the time and effort.

Sounds silly but, my spare ball is the most important ball in the bag. I can always find something that will get to the pocket but depending on the lanes I can't always keep my strike balls from tailing off on a ten pin if the backends are dry, or how much I have to judge the hook on the mid-lane on that first two-eight. Throw straight at everything and adjust the angles on the approach and it won't matter if the lanes are very oily or very dry, wood or synthetic your spares will always be shot the same way. (For the most part.)

Just my two cents worth...

Spare ball - One vote!

Bowl well!

Sir_rev-a-lot · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2003, 09:42:23 AM »

Most of the higher quality bowlers can flatten the shots enough to not need the spare ball. Let's be honest with ourselves though, that approximately 80 percent of your 180 plus bowlers are those that don't want to take the time to learn different wrist positions. They just want to load up and fire it, so the spare ball gives them the optionof having something going much straighter. It helps provide a psychological advantage along with that. Just take a time and watch a normal mens league, they throw it the same at the spares..

I keep a spare ball in the bag just because of the looks (Plus it helps to help out in pro shop to get equipment at cost), but I can throw my normal equipment at my spares just as well.

Rock77 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2003, 09:58:53 AM »

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Most of the higher quality bowlers can flatten the shots enough to not need the spare ball. Let's be honest with ourselves though, that approximately 80 percent of your 180 plus bowlers are those that don't want to take the time to learn different wrist positions.

I feel this is very untrue. When you talk high quality bowlers, first thing I look at is the PBA. I see ALOT of pros using plastic. I also see and was taught by my coach who tours on the PBA seniors that plastic is best for spares. I dont think it matters what one's avg is. Saying that 180 plus bowlers dont want to learn is one of the most untrue statements I have ever heard. Every 180 bowler I know uses plastic, every 200 bowler I know uses plastic. I dont think I know anyone who doesnt use plastic. I do see the 160-170 range bowlers using other balls, but they dont use plastic. Nor do they know how to flatten their wrist. I for one can flatten my wrist, but a plastic ball wont do anything different on any different lane condition. I think it is personal preference, but also feel that one can pick off more with plastic.
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omegabowler · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2003, 09:59:54 AM »

you can pound a nail into a 2x4 with your skull but a hammer dose a better job!

I have decide to make my spare ball multi-functional. use for dry lanes and spares. do I have to kill it ? Yes. but with the cg in the negitive side of the ball it goes straight as a plastic where as a strong drilling will still move 2 boards or so. enough to snap past a ten pin.

so use what YOU need to get the job done.
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thegame · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2003, 10:31:25 AM »

I love my spare ball, because since it's a Buzzsaw XXXL, it's more effective on fried lanes than a White Dot, Maxim, etc., I've always used plastic for spares, because I could flatten my wrist out, and hit 10's and other spares with my strike ball, but I don't want the ball to turn and hook just enough to miss a 10 when I need that spare the most which I'm always afraid will happen, hell that even happens with the plastic on really dry lanes sometimes. Sure, there are sometimes at tournaments and whatnot that I wish I had room for one more choice of strike ball in my bag, but spares are what win tournaments, and I just feel more comfortable with that little extra margin for error on the spares.

Chazman819 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2003, 10:58:45 AM »

I have a Clear Wolf that I use...but not for spares. I use that ball for burnt lanes. My spares I flatten my pearl pulse out. I was using my wolf for a while, and was doing great with it, but then wasn't able to pick up a thing with it. Went back to using my pearl pulse and am back on. So the the wolf only comes out for dry dry lanes.
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Stealth Bomber - Bonanza Pearl Pulse
Bloodline - Red Pulse
The Fish - Piranha Retro
Power of the Fragrance - Trauma ER

Yes...I name my bowling balls

Gravy · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2003, 11:02:17 AM »

I see a lot of people use plastic balls to pick up 10 pins (right handers) and rarely miss, but when it comes to shooting 7 pins they throw their strike ball and hook it to the pin. They hook it off the lane or pull it slightly hitting the oil and misses the pin to the right. Is it me or do you see people miss the 7 pin more than 10 pin. I have gone to the plastic ball to shoot my left side spares and I rarely miss. Do other out there use their spare ball to shoot left side spares?

CPA · « **Reply #9 on:** July 23, 2003, 12:18:37 PM »

I use a plastic spare ball for all of my spares except double wood. I switched to this method a little over a year ago. Even though I had success flattening out my wrist and throwing my strike ball at the spares, I felt I needed the plastic ball to be able to easily handle more conditions.

The plastic ball helped in a tournament and in the sport league I was in. In my opinion, the more demanding conditions require a spare ball.

Rick Wunder · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2003, 10:53:33 AM »

Plus40 and CPA hit the nail on the head. You can flatten out your release with your strike ball and make most of your spares on a typical blended house condition. OTOH, unless you have zero tilt and zero side rotation, your strike ball with its high-friction cover and dynamic core will read the lane much more than a plastic ball on sport or tournament conditions or on lanes that have been fried by extensive play. In some cases, depending on the core and how it is laid out, you may even deliver the ball with zero tilt and zero side rotation, but the core dynamics will cause the ball to hook, even if only slightly.

As for what I do, Bob Hylka described it perfectly, right down to the brain cramps.

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Edited on 7/24/2003 11:03 AM

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2003, 10:56:50 AM »

after my experience with a sport shot last night?...PLASTIC all the way !

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ecajberry · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2003, 02:36:22 PM »

Being new to useing performance balls and all. I desided to get a "spare ball" mainly because I have enough to worry about, learning my new game, keeping things the same with my stroke, plastic lets this happen for me. That thing can rev all it wants and it goes straight for me unless the backend is very dry. I use plastic for almost any shot that I am unsure of.....even if it is a 1-3-5. I know almost exactly where my plastic will go, I cant always say that about my Icon. I know what it is able to do, but wouldnt bet my life just yet that I could deliver it right every time.
On the nights that my Icon is not co-operating for me I put it away and throw the plastic for everything.......
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Michael DeSantis · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2003, 02:40:38 PM »

If the back-ends are very dry/burnt, I prefer a spare ball for corner pins. More predictable and easier for me to control with my level of ability.
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NY Mike · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2003, 02:58:34 PM »

I throw the Thing and the Matrix Dynasty, both pretty
good balls and I don't believe in spare balls. I am a firm
believer in learning to adjust. In addition, I do not believe
that no matter how good your pro shop guy is, no two balls are exactly
alike, therefore, getting a little different feel. Any others out there
who agree or disagree

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