Post by: bcw1969 on June 15, 2010, 03:14:55 AM
The guy that was sitting in the first position at that point was asking me about a split if we both ended up after our 1 game still in 1st & 2nd place--at first I didn''t know what he was talking about, since i have never been in that high of a position--so he explained it and asked if I wanted to "split" the the 1st & 2nd place money if we both make it to that final match. Something about that didn''t sit quite right with me(for myself, I mean), and I turned it down, and I kinda explained nicely to the guy that if I bowl really bad in the final game, that I don''t deserve that kinda money anyway. It ended up not being relevent for him because he bowled bad the 1 game and dropped out of the top 5. I however, managed to squeak in to the 5th spot, and ended up climbing up the ladder to the final game. Then the guy sitting in the first position asked me the same thing--I still didn''t get what he was talking about, might have been the way he said it, and when he explained it, I could only tell him the same thing I said to the other guy that asked me. I said if I bowl really bad, I don''t deserve the the big money anyways. He said the reason they do it is because of the differnce between the 1st & 2nd place money---1st was 10,000 and 2nd only 2,500. I understood why some people would do that in light of what he told me, but something within me just didn''t feel right about it. He got kinda happy I think when I said that I couldn''t do the split--based on how I was bowling that day(not great, but good enough to get there), I don''t blame him--he turned to his wife i guess it was a said "he doesn''t want to split", --but when I started out the final match on fire and he didn''t , he was really gettingb upset, really upset--I ended up winning the natch and the 10,000 dollars--but what I was most pleased with is thast even though I was in the handicap deivision, I bowled a 202 scratch in the final match on a tough oil pattern to win.
To me, that would kinda cheapen the final match, which quite a few of the bowlers & other people hung around to see what would happen--I mean if 2 people already agrede to split the money--how can the final match even end up being legitimate? where is the pressure? if you don''t bowl well who cares right? you still come away with decent money...I just couldn''t do that myself.
Besides, this was the farthest I had ever gone in one of their tournaments. Now that I finally got there, if I was going to go all the way, I wanted to win everything I could if I did.
What I really wanted to ask is, is this a common practice when getting that far in big money tournaments? Is there some unwritten rule in bowling that says that someone in my position should have "split" the money? If anyone else has ever been in that situation what did you do?
Brad
Edited on 6/15/2010 11:18 AM
Post by: dogman666 on June 15, 2010, 11:18:59 AM
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Post by: completebowler on June 15, 2010, 11:22:46 AM
Then the title match still has some meaning....you would be bowling for $2500 bucks...still a big game.
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Post by: Sikfish on June 15, 2010, 11:24:09 AM
To the OP: Good job not splitting the money. You made him have to perform for the the dough and he did not....Awesome work!
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Post by: T C 300 on June 15, 2010, 01:20:05 PM
you did the right thing not to split, awsome job/bowling bcw!!!
Post by: themachine300 on June 15, 2010, 01:50:45 PM
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Post by: T C 300 on June 15, 2010, 01:56:08 PM
IF YOU DID SPLIT, THERES A $3750 DIFFERENCE IN SPLITTING FROM GETTING 1ST!!!!!!!!! ppl are S T U P I D now days.....
Post by: Big Columbia on June 15, 2010, 02:09:26 PM
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theres a $7500 difference between the 2... not sure why ppl would wana "split" it!! go home with $6250 or $10,000................. um this should be an EZ no brainer, BOWL FOR THE $10,000!!!!
IF YOU DID SPLIT, THERES A $3750 DIFFERENCE IN SPLITTING FROM GETTING 1ST!!!!!!!!! ppl are S T U P I D now days.....
Or you could lose and get $2500, which is a far cry from $6250.00. Thats why they ask to split. The realistic thought process is lose and get $2500 or split and get guaranteed $6250.00.
Post by: Gene J Kanak on June 15, 2010, 02:13:11 PM
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Post by: Baboon on June 15, 2010, 02:16:07 PM
Post by: Zack Pelton300 on June 15, 2010, 04:44:58 PM
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Post by: T C 300 on June 15, 2010, 05:02:17 PM
but as a TRUE COMPETITOR, should always go big or go home!!! gota be in it to win it! lol
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on June 15, 2010, 05:19:44 PM
Post by: LotsaBalls on June 15, 2010, 05:39:10 PM
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My question is, how would you enforce this "agreement"? If you know the person, fine, but what's to say the other guy will "give it up" if he wins?
If you are smart you both sign a contract to prevent that from happening.
Post by: Russell on June 15, 2010, 07:45:55 PM
What tournament was this that you won? I am surprised a tourney in the middle of summer paid that kind of money.
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Post by: rvmark on June 15, 2010, 07:52:38 PM
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What tournament was this that you won? I am surprised a tourney in the middle of summer paid that kind of money.
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Russel I am wondering to, let alone as some others mentioned a handicap tourney with that payout!
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Post by: bcw1969 on June 15, 2010, 08:46:31 PM
Brad
Post by: bcw1969 on June 15, 2010, 08:57:38 PM
Brad
Edited on 6/15/2010 8:58 PM
Post by: bowl400 on June 15, 2010, 08:59:08 PM
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Post by: Russell on June 15, 2010, 10:23:23 PM
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Wondering if baggers from the whole country show up for this.
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Yeah I'm familiar with the tourney...and yes they come from far and wide for the annual bagger fest.
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Post by: T C 300 on June 17, 2010, 11:53:33 AM
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It's obvious that a few people responding in this thread have never bowled for more than a $5 pot game...especially TC300Quote
well thats glad to know your a lil girl n will try to get a person to split the big $$!!!! what...?? no confidence in your game russy?!?!?!? LMFAO
man the F up and go big or go home!! shiit for $5 i wouldnt even let you watch me shoot a spare.....
Post by: bass on June 17, 2010, 03:34:54 PM
Usually it's been between the guys I normally car pool with.
Makes it a more enjoyable car ride home.
Nothing worse than a quiet car for a couple of hours.
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Post by: Russell on June 17, 2010, 04:18:33 PM
quote:QuoteIt's obvious that a few people responding in this thread have never bowled for more than a $5 pot game...especially TC300Quote
well thats glad to know your a lil girl n will try to get a person to split the big $$!!!! what...?? no confidence in your game russy?!?!?!? LMFAO
man the F up and go big or go home!! shiit for $5 i wouldnt even let you watch me shoot a spare.....
Why would I want to watch you flag a 10 pin for free? Let alone pay $5 for it? It's not about confidence, the poster above nailed it. If you've bowled great for 12-20 games to get to that point, one game is a pretty short period to determine a huge discrepency in money.
I would ask you how many times you've been in that situation, but I'm pretty sure we all know the (real) answer.
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Post by: T C 300 on June 17, 2010, 04:44:17 PM
but as a true competitor, I would bowl for the big $$! friend or not.. "if" i did win, well we would have a night of drinkn on me!! or on him if he won.. LOL
oh by the way.... by time i flagged that 10pin i would of already beat ya anyway so.............................................
Post by: RealBowler on June 18, 2010, 10:55:46 AM
Also remember that most times you are going to get a tax form for your prize amount. So you win $10k and are going to pay taxes on the full amount regardless of what type of agreement you make with the other guy.
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