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MrNattyBoh

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Sport Pattern League
« on: May 22, 2014, 08:57:29 AM »
Well I got my first taste of a sport pattern league this week! Boy do i need some work....lol....shot 155-144-192. NOT GOOD! however, i think with some practice and better concentration I think I can pull off 190 avg, well, that's my goal anyway. My first goal was to shoot 500 the first week and I failed. Spare shooting sucked until the last game and finding the pocket the first two games was like finding a needle in a haystack........we get to practice on the pattern the night before so i will definitely be taking advantage of that! I am looking forward to the challenge and sharpening my game and going to the next level! anyone else bowling sport pattern league for the first time this year?

 

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2014, 01:12:47 PM »
Eric,  +1    In addition to repeatability, I would also add that the sport league forced me to learn to be comfortable throwing down 5 (Cheetah), taking hand out of my naturally high rev shot (Shark) and throwing my spare ball on spare shots on the left side of the lane.   I'm not sure I would have had the motivation to work on these things if I stayed on THS leagues.

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2014, 01:28:29 PM »
yea MK,there is no challenge to throwing it out and as long as it does not go in the ditch you can strike,the sport patterns help to learn more about your game and how to play lanes

MrNattyBoh

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2014, 01:40:28 PM »
I thought about getting a spare ball, but 100 bucks for a 10 week league isnt worth it to me. I see the importance, but for now I have been comming straight up the back and hard at spares. If i bowled tournaments i would get one. i am mostly a league bowler during the week.

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2014, 02:42:28 PM »
i have always picked up 10 pin by coming up the back glad to see you have that in your arsenal now

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2014, 10:51:34 AM »
You have to look at sport leagues in terms of what you really want from the game.  Nothing at all wrong with bowling on house shots and enjoying throwing high scores.

 If you really want to become accomplished at the game, and appreciate the challenge of attacking diverse lane patterns, then sport leagues are the way to go.  When I was young and looking to get better, we didn't have sport leagues, and frankly I didn't find it productive to practice on brick yard conditions.  However I did try to bowl in multiple houses where the house shot might be off the corner in one house, and at 3rd arrow in another.  It forced me to develop a style where threw a strong enough shot to carry from inside, but could still go straight enough to play outside with minimal out angle.

 New surfaces and ball advancement forced me to refine my release, and develop more ball speed, but many of those fundamentals are still applicable.  Most of the greatest bowlers of the past 50 years who endured for any length of time went much straighter than most of the other players.  Indeed what makes Jason Belmonte so good is that he can manipulate his axis rotation to straighten his shot as much as possible with his incredibly high rev rate.       

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2014, 08:39:41 AM »
well, week 5 of the sport pattern league is in the books! i dont know what the lane pattern was but I do know it was supposed to be 43' in length. I had a rough go at things the first game: 134....YIKES!!!! I was between balls the entire game, Melee wasn't a good look and the ringer blue was even worse. The 10th frame came around and I switched to the Mystic Aura for the last ball and kinda played between 12-8. I struck on that ball and ran up the front 8 the next game and finished with a 264. I had one shot go Jersey but other than that I rolled the ball pretty well. Third game was more of the same as the first game but i was able to string some strikes together for a 189 game. It was a tough shot for me, couldn't get the ball in or it was crossing over and I couldn't get it out past 5 because there was no recovery. i ended up with 587 and that puts my average up to 189! My goal is a 190+ average and I hit my other goal last night to hit at least a 250 game at some point.

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2014, 02:52:38 PM »
I am envious of those that have access to a sport league.
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2014, 08:34:50 AM »
week 6:

where do i start.......I guess I can start by saying that I was completely out of touch with bowling for three games lol. I just couldn't get anything going. Only 12 strikes, 5 spares and 15 opens!!! Lots of splits. I either threw a really good shot for a strike or i was way out in left field. I just couldn't hit my intended target to save my life. Miss out and it was disaster.....miss in and it was also disaster. There wasn't any room this week like there was last week. Last week I had about 4 boards to work with, this week it felt like half a board. So here are the numbers, a bit embarrassing, but i can take the heat! 180-140-121.

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2014, 12:05:59 PM »
In sport leagues you definitely know when you throw a bad shot.  You will find when you go back to a typical house shot that you will throw a bad shot, expect a bad result, but still strike.  At that point you realize how much easier a house shot is than a sport shot.

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2014, 04:02:03 PM »
Something people don't understand is that you need more than good execution to hit a sport league pattern.   If you are a high rev player with a lot of axis rotation it is almost impossible not to play a lot of out angle.  On flatter patterns, even vary small variations in speed or release point get magnified on the back end.  Often, even the lane transitions will give bad results.  Nobody makes a perfect shot every time on sport patterns.  What happens is that there are certain styles that allow for some margin of error on flat patterns. 

The biggest problem with house patterns is not that they foster good scoring with errant shots.  Rather the house patterns reward styles of release that simply afford no margin of error.

I always use to say, no matter what I was bowling on, that I try to find an angle that gives me the most margin of error, then do my best to use the least of it.   

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2014, 09:05:21 AM »

I always use to say, no matter what I was bowling on, that I try to find an angle that gives me the most margin of error, then do my best to use the least of it.   

I always use practice to try a few different angles.  Once I find one with a good look, I then start missing left and right on purpose to see if I have any margin for error.  If I do, I stick there, if not I try one of the others to see if there's more miss room.  I don't "try" to miss when it counts, but I'm realistic to know I am going to no matter how locked in I may be.  Knowing I can get away with a small miss gives me the confidence to not think and just do. 

So the problem I run into the one time a year I get to bowl on a sport shot (Nationals) is that I am too tight because my head tells me I can't miss at all.  All of a sudden I can't hit the broad side of a barn because I'm trying to be perfect.  I've done CATS in Reno.  My accuracy was professional level.  It's not that I can't be accurate, but it's difficult when you never get the chance to bowl on a tougher condition. 

I really think everyone should have access to a Sport league.  I have no idea how to make that happen, but I don't think bowling can take that next step if people don't even have the option to compete on a tougher condition.  People don't appreciate what the pros do because most of them have no understanding of the lane conditions.  To be fair, many recreational bowlers still wouldn't know after bowling in a Sport league, but some would.  And even if it's only a few, that's a good thing.  Then we need to reward people for success in the sport league - real success.  Something quality for averaging 200.  Something quality for a 300.  800.  Heck, even 700.  Give people a reason to want to aspire for the challenge.  Make them feel good about averaging 200 and reward that.  Invest in your bowlers; invest in the sport.  Other bowlers will start to get interested when they see that averaging 200 in a Sport league is more rewarding than averaging 220 in a house league.  You can't just ask people to get excited about shooting lower scores and expect it to work, but you can give them an incentive to do so.  It might work, it might not.  At the very least, it will generate some discussion that isn't taking place now.
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2014, 09:14:15 AM »
We are switching to a Scorpion Pattern tomorrow in our PBA experience league.  Can you guys help with a recomendation on how best to start off on the pattern?

From what I read, less rev dominant players play the track while rev dominat players start somewhere aroundf 15 to 7 both with an agressive ball.   Being a Rev dominat tweener,  Storm/Roto guy, how does a IQ Tour (pin down) or Hypercell (pin up) starting out around 15 to 7 sound for this pattern?

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2014, 09:25:26 AM »
If it's the 47' Scorpion you probably aren't going to be able to get it back from 7.

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2014, 09:37:56 AM »
We are switching to a Scorpion Pattern tomorrow in our PBA experience league.  Can you guys help with a recomendation on how best to start off on the pattern?

From what I read, less rev dominant players play the track while rev dominat players start somewhere aroundf 15 to 7 both with an agressive ball.   Being a Rev dominat tweener,  Storm/Roto guy, how does a IQ Tour (pin down) or Hypercell (pin up) starting out around 15 to 7 sound for this pattern?

Thanks
MK

15 to 7 will probably be a gutter ball on Scorpion. You have the right idea with 15, but it will be the break point at the end of the pattern, not your target at the arrows. Of course, each house plays different.
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2014, 09:41:33 AM »
How bout throw the bowling ball down the lane, watch what it does, then adjust than trying to bowl on a piece of paper
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