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don coyote

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Sport shot average for tournaments?
« on: March 25, 2015, 05:09:25 PM »
I don't have a regular league average but have a sport shot league average. My question is can I bowl in sanctioned tournaments with a sport shot average, or is there a formula to allow me to?
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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 05:15:47 PM »
There is a table for adjusting your sport shot average to a "regular" average in the USBC rule book.

I my opinion, it has no bases in reality, so if that's the average you get to use, handicap is going to be your best friend.
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don coyote

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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 05:24:36 PM »
Thanks!
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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2015, 06:27:20 PM »
Quote from: milorafferty on March 25, 2015, 05:15:47 PM
I my opinion, it has no bases in reality, so if that's the average you get to use, handicap is going to be your best friend.

and many here in my area, they have BFF's!!!
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Dave81644

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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2015, 09:26:54 PM »
i always tell them when i register, that way if I happen to have a good day
I said something ahead of time
i dont want to be that guy who may get blamed for trying to hide something
especially when there is $$ on the line
some do adjust it, some do not care
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don coyote

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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2015, 11:13:46 AM »
Thanks Dave for the input! I will do that! 
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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2015, 06:20:06 PM »
I too only have Sport average for winter. I keep a copy of the sport adjustment table in my bag so there is no question at tournaments. It can be found in the Sport Bowling section on bowl.com.

Some tournaments accept summer house shot averages over the sport adjusted average when available. Some don't accept either. In those instances, I bowl scratch.

Because sandbagging is so prevalent,  tournaments are trying to protect against it. So many feel that everyone is trying to cheat the system (which does happen too often) instead of viewing it as bowlers seeking a challenge and trying to improve. There's a price to pay for not obtaining an inflated average.
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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2015, 07:24:09 PM »
Quote from: xrayjay on March 25, 2015, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: milorafferty on March 25, 2015, 05:15:47 PM
I my opinion, it has no bases in reality, so if that's the average you get to use, handicap is going to be your best friend.

and many here in my area, they have BFF's!!!

Lol, thats pretty much half the players in my league :/ hate when people cant play to be better, but just to create some missing room in their scores!
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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 11:35:17 AM »
I only have a sport league average this season also.  Another problem I am starting to see is that guys like me who typically don't bowl on house shots much often average nearly as high on the sport patterns, and the adjustment tables really hurt us.  I don't really bowl many handicap tournaments, so it doesn't make much difference to me.  I have had 3 times in the last 8 seasons when I did have both a house shot and sport shot average that my sport shot average equaled or exceeded my house shot average. 
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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2015, 09:10:02 AM »
I'm not a fan of handicap of any kind...

But... every PBA pattern, every WTBA pattern, Every Kegel sport and challenge pattern, meet all the USBC criteria for a legally dressed bowling lane. Why a persons average established on a legal lane condition should ever have to be adjusted to make it fair for bowlers who established an average on a pattern that most likely doesn't meet USBC criteria is beyond me.

Stupid is as stupid does....
 
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Re: Sport shot average for tournaments?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2015, 11:14:26 AM »
So long as the USBC criteria is 3 units of oil on the outside, the typical THS does meet USBC criteria.  I think some adjustment is appropriate, but the tables developed 10 or more years ago are not adequate.  Not sure I have an answer, but with a lot of us averaging 210+ on sport patterns, the adjustment table is probably a bit off at the high end.  Also, what about situation where a handicap tourney is conducted on a sport pattern. 
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