Author Topic: Sport Shot Ball Recommendation (Read 3104 times)

asaturno · « **on:** May 15, 2003, 04:44:22 PM »

Last night was the first night of my summer Sport Condition
league. It's 12 weeks, 3 patterns in a 4 week block. The
first is oil to 38 feet. It will get progressively shorter
from what I heard.

I'm looking at getting a dryer condition ball and looking
the Track Hex, Columbia Wild R/G/R right now with a 5x5
drilling. I have had good success with Track pearls in the
past so I'm kinda partial to the Hex. Any other suggestions?

I'm most likely a tweener, with a track close to my thumb
hole, average revs, and 15-17 mph ball speed.

Thanks.

mumzie · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2003, 08:45:22 AM »

Here's the info I have on short sport shots:
1. Try playing somewhere around 1-5 board first with a strong ball, strong drilling, with lots of surface.
2. Don't use shiny equipment - have surface on the ball so it will use energy before hitting the dry.

Added on edit:
I've received these pieces of advice from 2 different PWBA members, both reasonably successful players.
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One advantage of bowling over golf
is that you seldom lose the ball.

Edited on 5/16/2003 8:43 AM

Goof1073 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2003, 10:06:13 AM »

I would look into either a Tour Power with a good pin, a Sonic X or maybe even a Lane-1 Viper Pearl. I agree with possibley changing the surface...I've has luck on various sport condition shots with equipement after I hit them with a ScotchBrite pad.

asaturno · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2003, 10:24:45 AM »

What pin would you suggest for me Goof? Drilling? Thanks!

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2003, 10:28:50 AM »

Goof,
I would say either a 4 1/2 x 2 1/2 or a 5x3
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JEFF

Edited on 5/16/2003 10:26 AM

HamPster · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2003, 10:45:04 AM »

Ron Bahr brought up an interesting point to me about our Sport League. The only Sport patterns I think he's bowled on before have just been plain wet, so accuracy is a must. However, all our Sport shot consists of is is a moderately challenging house pattern. It'll move quick if you get it inside, but you have recovery area out to 5 board, which is ridiculous. There's too much oil in the middle, and not enough outside, and when people figure out the characteristics of the pattern, there's gonna be some honor scores. On the other side, the only Sport patterns I've bowled on are pretty extreme wet/dry's. Nothing outside 10, and you've gotta work to get it down the lane inside of that. There's too much head oil on our pattern though, cause you can lay it down 3 or 4 boards inside of target and it'll skate out to the breakpoint if you have the right angle on it. On the patterns I've shot on, you lay it down inside, it stays there.
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I know Kung Fu!

I am the one, the one that will bring balance. All the pins shall be destroyed!

HamPster · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2003, 11:19:43 AM »

Are you making fun of me, or asking a question? Lol, I'm lost! It's still drier inside, and wetter outside, it's just not dry enough on the inside and wet enough outside. It's ABC Sport compliant, and the printout of the pattern is within regulations, it's just not very difficult.
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I know Kung Fu!

I am the one, the one that will bring balance. All the pins shall be destroyed!

HamPster · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2003, 11:28:05 AM »

Yeah, that's it. I bowled terrible my first week and still managed a 188 avg. The top two are at 210. It's just too easy of a pattern, is what I'm saying.
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I know Kung Fu!

I am the one, the one that will bring balance. All the pins shall be destroyed!

Goof1073 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 16, 2003, 11:35:02 AM »

quote:
I would say either a 4 1/2 x 2 1/2 or a 5x3

Something on that line could work for him Jeff. The 5" pin will give him the length and the 3" CG will even out the reaction slightly. Could always twist the CG into the track area too to help the reaction.

asaturno... This is a tough call without seeing how you throw the ball, exactly what the condition is like and where you would want to play the lanes. I would stick with what ball to get for now and talk to you driller about the specifics.

Edited on 5/16/2003 12:28 PM

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #9 on:** May 16, 2003, 11:43:16 AM »

Goof, I agree....

asaturno,
I would keep the cg kicked right just a bit, and stick with the balls mentioned in Goof's post above......

quote:

Tour Power with a good pin, a Sonic X or maybe even a Lane-1 Viper Pearl.

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JEFF

Ishmael · « **Reply #10 on:** May 16, 2003, 12:39:41 PM »

quote:
The fluid meter machines leave room outside 5, but other machines don't.

Bob, can you elaborate on this?

asaturno · « **Reply #11 on:** May 16, 2003, 12:54:25 PM »

Yes you are correct....let's decide on a ball. The
2 choices (Tour Power and Sonic X) are 2 vastly different
balls. One a sanded surface low-rg ball, the other
a pearl high-rg ball (both have similiar differentials .25 vs .20).
Would you say the choices I listed(Hex, Wild) are not ideal?

I like to play straight up the boards usually...can move left
and swing it somewhat too. I stay behind the ball during
the backswing and can stay behind it throughout the follow-thru,
or come off the side (no more than 45 degrees). Speed is
usually betwen 15-17mph.

I don't recall the amount of oil or how far out the buff went.

If you can make a ball recommendation with this, great. If not,
I'd pick the Sonic X since I could probably use that on one of
my fall leagues which is a 3rd shift league. I already have balls
for heavy and medium, so the Tour Power looks like overlap.

Thanks!

HamPster · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2003, 01:19:48 PM »

Listen to the man! He shot 290 on a JOG shot that the best of the KU players only managed 230's for their best games on. Lol, that shot made you happy for a 190 to begin with!
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I know Kung Fu!

I am the one, the one that will bring balance. All the pins shall be destroyed!

Leftyhi-trak · « **Reply #13 on:** May 16, 2003, 01:27:31 PM »

If you have less axis rotation i agree with Bob try board 5 and out. It tends to be playable with med-strong equipment usually of the low RG variety or slightly scuffed surface depending on oil volumes applied. The Sonic, Barrage or Wild might do well for you inside as long as they have enough ball strength to turn the corner evenly for better carry. PBA.com and brunswick insider.com (tour notes)might have some key hints as how to play sport or PBA conditions.

Edited on 5/16/2003 1:26 PM

Buzzhead · « **Reply #14 on:** May 16, 2003, 03:49:40 PM »

for most of them that I shot on I had a decent shot around the 10 board with a 1200 grit sanded flame reactive... walked right to the hole and killed it......... SO my choice would be a Flame reactive. I also had a little luck on a longer pattern with my blueberry.

I start a sport shot summer league next Thursday. will fill in as I go.

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