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MSC2471

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Sport shot discoveries...
« on: June 05, 2005, 08:14:59 PM »
Anyone have any revelations they've really learned about their game as a result of bowling on sport shots through league play or tournament competition? Although I've only competed in my sport shot league for 2 out of the first 3 weeks, I can safely tell you that my spare shooting system is in need of repair, especially when it comes to multi-pin spare conversions. I can't believe how many shots I've chopped with my spare ball in 2 weeks on 2 different patterns.

I've also learned that in addition to accuracy and correct ball choice another factor that needs to be held in high regard is speed control. Whether the volume of oil from board to board is 28 units outside and 45 units inside, flat gutter to gutter, or 80 units outside and 65 units inside, you better keep your speed at the same level or if you float a mph or two in either direction you can be in for some weird leaves you may never encounter on a THS.

Who knows what my fourth pattern will be like this week, but I'm doing a lot of spare shooting practice this week so that I can get my spare conversion numbers up....

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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2005, 09:38:49 AM »
I find my self most of the time not looping the ball at all but really putting my hand more up the back and just rolling it.  It is smoother at the break point and doesnt leave alot of odd leaves.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 09:47:40 AM »
I've found that my speed control sucks - really badly.  On the other hand it seems that I'm actually more accurate than I thought.  Looks like I keep the ball within about a 2 board area at my target.
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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2005, 10:56:19 AM »
MSC2471, I underline everything you said. I learned on a sport shot to become accurate, how to read the lane and how to adjust speed/release/equipment and to paly slow.

Accuracy is never a wrong asset in bowling, and I benefit from it on easier THS patterns. Also, knowing when to change your game is vital, too. If you stick too long to your strategy or A-game, you will be stuck on quickly changing conditions. I found that sport patterns change dramatically, so you must react fast and decisive to stay in the game.

And the last thing, playing slowly, has shown me the power the equipment has. When I started bowling I played with a hustle at 15mph+ and trying to rev the ball violently - so hard that I topped the ball. With less speed I was able to conquer sport patterns, rolling the ball gentle and giving it rotation just by the fingers. Since then, my strike ball has become powerful. I play at 13mph on heavy oil und let things roll. Bowling can be SO easy if gravity rules...

Playing on sport patterns is therefore very rewarding. You directly see when you are doing something wrong, no walled shot will cover your mistakes. It is perfect for learning a clean technique, I think, even when results drop dramatically. Personally, my THS average is 30 pins higher than at a local house with a flat 40' sports pattern - but I owe this high THS average to the difficult lanes. If you have the opportunity to play on serious turf, appreciate and enjoy it. It will make you a more versatile bowler!
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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2005, 12:30:31 PM »
I've learned just how inconsistant my release really is. I knew it wasn't great but I never knew it was this bad. I also discovered that my armswing is not straight. I will line up the same way 5 consecutive times and maybe only hit the mark I'm lined up with twice due to inconsistant armswing/release. My spare game also needs improving but holy crap has it improved since we started, it seems anytime I go to practice now I throw at more spares than strikes(which is good for me).

Another thing is...I now appreciate how important doubles really are. On THS I could go 9/ 81 9- then string 5 or 6 and be right back in the game...not the case on sport shot.
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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2005, 03:32:05 PM »
Sport conditions exposed my spare "game" for the sham that it was.  Since then, I've learned to throw straight at every spare combination, including leaves such as the 3-9-10.  It makes a world of difference when you can make every spare the same way regardless of lane conditions.

Leave the muscle at home.  I used to start the lawnmower ("hit up") on every release and had never heard of a "free armswing" when I bowled in my first sport condition league.  Talk about a rude surprise.  To quote Mike Jasneau, "Sport conditions will maginify any muscle in your swing".  He wasn't kidding.

The breakpoint is the target, not the arrows.  It doesn't matter whatsoever where your ball goes through the arrows if there is more than a board difference at your breakpoint.  You can hit the third arrow every shot and be spraying shots all over the lane.  We get away with that on a house shot, you sure don't on sport.  Another way to read this is that you need a solid foundation in your footwork and swing.  If you can't repeat a consistent unmuscled swing and quality footwork, you're roadkill on sport.

Equipment that opens up a house shot is typically useless on sport.  I'm surprised nobody mentioned this as of yet.  That "skid/flip" stuff and "big backend" that sells so many balls will only get you in trouble on sport.  While there is no silver bullet in equipment that will open up a sport shot, the key is damage control.  What will hurt you the least is what you want to use.
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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2005, 12:55:11 AM »
Janderson: Excellent post regarding a lot of issues that I similarly am facing in my sport shot league. I've always been a straight shooter at spares, and I also agree that using a spare ball at double wood spares like the 2-7-8, 2-8, 3-9 and 3-9-10 seems to work well for my game rather than risking my strike ball on a sport shot pattern. My coach and I have been working on a smoother delivery and as muscle free as possible- and I think it's been paying dividends in this league.

Another aspect that I think needs to be brought to the forefront can be the mental aspect of sport bowling. You need to take each frame one shot at a time- because if you don't one open can spill into another quite quickly. If you don't have the confidence to make a split, be sure to take pin count and move on to the next frame. I think you can't let down mentally in sport bowling- because just when you think you've thrown a good frame or game, the next frame or game can be harsh if you aren't good at repeating shots and becoming aware of the lane conditions.

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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2005, 01:49:02 AM »
I underline jandersons statement: equipment choice is vital. Spasmic reactive pearls as well as horribly aggressive backend balls will not get you through more than 2 games. A friend of mine has a Fear Factor and a Predator Red Sanded - both aggressive particle balls. They both work fine on a fresh sports pattern, but the become incontrollable after 1 or 2 games. Myself, I start out with a Fuze Eliminator and can play it longer since I have less speed and revs, but I regularly have to change balls once or even twice to keep control.

Staying in play is essential on sport patterns. If you are in doubt, straighter is greater.

What I have seen from experienced players is that they use rather "normal" balls with mild drillings. More ball reaction, yes, but at the cost of losing game control very soon. The original Inferno is still very popular around here, because newer stuff has become more aggressive. Highly polished Vertigos and some Ultimate Infernos are also frequent sights. Generally, no med or high load particles.
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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2005, 11:03:11 AM »
To trade kudos with MSC2471, I completely agree that the mental game is key.  I can't believe I left that out.

Similarly, it usually requires a different mental approach.  We want to throw strikes, but we often worry more about staying clean and getting strikes where we can.  Opens are huge because it is so much more difficult to put together long strings of strikes to "make up" for even one open.  This is often referred to as "grinding it out", and requires a patient approach to the game and scoring.  The strikes will come when we execute well, but it is imperative that we stay clean until then.  (I often hear the TV show ... "patience, young grasshopper")

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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2005, 01:11:58 AM »
i think strategy is key.  Burning up a track with a dull ball to generate a shot for yourself to bowl on.  Then executing good shots in what track you have created, followed by making your spares.  I've averaged in the mid 180s every time i've been on the sport shot.  And what happened is that I struggled until the 3rd or 4th game...
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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2005, 03:24:50 AM »
I make similar experiences like Lazolio - it takes some time to get tuned in to the specific lane. For me, the reason is that my local lane surfaces are very different in the same house, although they are oiled the same. There is a lane pair that I can only conquer with heavy particles at session beginning, while on other lanes "normal" strong reactive stuff is enough to open up a game.

Nevertheless, my sport shot changes dramatically. On one occasion when I played with friend we both struggled for 4 games to get the balll consistently to the pocket. It was liek acurse for both of us, neither equipment, speed or release changes worked. Then, out of a sudden, we both made strike strings, as if god or whoever else said "Now you are allowed to score!". This went for another 2 games, and then the lane was dead! No idea why this happened this way.
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Re: Sport shot discoveries...
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2005, 09:33:45 AM »
Observations .. four weeks into the SPORTS league .. each week the first game is GOOD .. the 2nd/3rd game scores are down.

Could be I'm not adjusting well .. could be I'm tiring .. whatever it is .. next week I'll be more conscious of it and see if I can improve the situation!

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