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xrayjay

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I am returning to second shift leagues this winter. the THS is around 37', local house bowlers complained that the longer 39-40 ft pattern was too hard. These were the higher handicap bowlers.

So, when I used to bowl this late league, it can get really toasty - following a 5 man team league. but most nights, the heads were dry, mids still had some, and balls hook in the back. I don't follow the current line ups these days and I was wondering what balls should I look into?

Does a round object have sides? I say yes, pizza has triangles..

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bltbyj

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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2015, 02:24:07 PM »
Sounds like Land Park bowl. LOL!

xrayjay

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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2015, 03:15:01 PM »
Sounds like Land Park bowl. LOL!

Yes sir!! I'm hoping they stretch out their THS this season. Old manager, he's a real cool dude and was just trying to make everyone happy.  If they want easy, they can go to strikes lol...
Does a round object have sides? I say yes, pizza has triangles..

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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2015, 10:24:22 AM »
xrayjay--How deep can you get?  Some bowlers can play deeper inside lines but the majority don't feel comfortable moving deeper inside.  If you can move deep inside my ball of choice is a Motiv Graffiti Tag with a pin up 5" pin for my stats which are in profile.  What I look for in a ball for this is enough motor/stronger cover to kick out back row and real weak balls unless you can play a straighter line in general won't kick out the back row unless your actual rev rate is very high.

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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2015, 02:35:23 PM »
Sounds like Land Park bowl. LOL!

Yes sir!! I'm hoping they stretch out their THS this season. Old manager, he's a real cool dude and was just trying to make everyone happy.  If they want easy, they can go to strikes lol...

Well if I remember right most of the bowlers went to Land Park after Alpine closed (Very Dry House) and all of their stuff was drilled to go long. I even remember when the manager at Alpine put out a heavy shot cause the scratch bowlers complained that the shot was to easy. So when the scratch bowlers showed up for league and bowled none of them even could shoot a 600. So they complained it was to hard for them to score.

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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2015, 02:41:42 PM »
Xrayjay you should bring your team out for the Thursday Night shootout league at Rocklin AMF.

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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2015, 02:49:02 PM »
I would look into a milder pearl with a lower diff core and higher rg but with a core.  My best experiences on these kinds of patterns are with longer pin-pap layouts (5"+) and a lower pin placement so that the ball doesn't explode off the friction so much.  For the past couple of seasons that ball has been the Dude.
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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2015, 10:27:37 AM »
I am still trying to figure out how anyone of any average could think a 39-40 foot house pattern could be tougher than a shorter one.

As for equipment, I would be looking at my ride or blue hammer.
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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2015, 10:32:22 AM »
I am still trying to figure out how anyone of any average could think a 39-40 foot house pattern could be tougher than a shorter one. 

I would guess Bob that most that can not move inside to catch some head oil and track area players would think that ball not getting enough length, burning up and the only way to combat this is weak urethane with very little surface and/or throwing it instead of rolling it would feel shorter is more difficult.
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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2015, 11:52:54 AM »
Xrayjay you should bring your team out for the Thursday Night shootout league at Rocklin AMF.

We would like too, but too far for most of us who live in Elk Grove east area.

I am still trying to figure out how anyone of any average could think a 39-40 foot house pattern could be tougher than a shorter one.

As for equipment, I would be looking at my ride or blue hammer.

I don't get it myself. I've heard it was carry down issue for the cause for the change. But, in all the years I've bowled league and tourney's at this house, I almost forgot what carry down was. With the longer oil or even the shorter oil, I see the good bowlers who play straight, still play "up 5"...(it's an inside joke)

I would look into a milder pearl with a lower diff core and higher rg but with a core.  My best experiences on these kinds of patterns are with longer pin-pap layouts (5"+) and a lower pin placement so that the ball doesn't explode off the friction so much.  For the past couple of seasons that ball has been the Dude.

Thanks for the suggestion.
For the most part, this house doesn't really push me into my "danger zone" (past the 4th arrow). I've played the danger zone at other houses with THS and non THS patterns, and this house I don't really need to. Oil pushes outside most of the time...
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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2015, 02:32:14 PM »
Xrayjay you should bring your team out for the Thursday Night shootout league at Rocklin AMF.

We would like too, but too far for most of us who live in Elk Grove east area.

It's not that far. Lol

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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2015, 11:09:52 AM »
At 37 ft I would be looking at finding a way to play outside of 10 board.  Sometimes that is possible sometimes it isn't depending on how the early shift breaks the pattern down.  If you can find a ball that lets you stay relatively direct out that is the way to go.  If you have to move in I would go with a strong core pearl that will maintain recovery when you play away from the pocket inside 3rd arrow. 

A lot depends on your game.  I know some really good low rev players who can throw straight up the dirt on a shot like the one described here.  If you are more of a power player getting deep and sending it wide should be no problem. 

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Re: dry up front, with little in the middle, but she got much back!!
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2015, 01:51:45 PM »
At land park when it was dry, I come in late night, I found most success with a Brunswick sling shot. It was pretty predictable played around 10 . I also played with an uproar broken wrist throwing fast at the ten board also gave me success although when I due tournaments such as the Asian american tournament they held there I threw broken wrist at ten board cuz the wall he he.