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Scooterdog

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Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« on: January 02, 2007, 12:34:30 PM »
Bowled league tonight and decided to use a different push away. It was position night and we only need to win 4  out of 20 points to salt away the first half. I threw the ball very inconsistent with my new push away.
Shoot 279-268-279 = 826    I now change my mind and say you can luck into a 800. Even though I never missed the pocket I seemed to have half the d**m lane. If I throw the ball better I most likely never even get the eight. Of all the eights I've thrown this is by far the worst I've thrown it. I'm really starting to long for the old ABC lane conditions. They should put out a standard 2:1 oil variance. I know it will never happen, just wish I could find a sport league in my area.

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Rev_O

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2007, 09:04:02 PM »
they're not whining, they're just honestly telling everyone what a joke league bowling is today. I have not bowled righty in 3 months, bowled sunday for the first time and shot just shy of 700 with 14# equipment. Even though it was harsh at times, The Hose (merkins) has opened my eyes to how ridiculous this game now is. A guy I bowl with on sundays had 17 to the ditch this sunday. he shot 1015 for 4 games, not hitting the same mark twice in a row. He was walking around all puffy chested afterwards until I shot him down. I told him, "nice scoring" today. He says, "dont you mean nice bowling?". I said, "heck no, you bowled like crap, it was the soft shot that let you score like that!" Honesty is brutal!!
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 09:13:23 PM »
I'm more dissapointed with the people acting like there crap doesn't stink now adays instead of the house/lane condition. The House is there to make money, so they will do what they have to do to succeed. I admit, I was a true AHOLE a couple years ago. I learned the hard way (once again), but I did LEARN!!
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 09:14:23 PM »
Scores have gotten so ridiculous were I'm at that its not even funny. I'm by no means a great bowler but I just don't throw the ball bad enough to score with some of the people around here. If you don't shoot 280+ you don't win a pot game, if you don't average 240+ you don't make the top 5 in the local King of the Hills. Almost no one wants to bowl on anything but a walled up house shot around here and the closest sport leagues are 80 miles one way. Even some of the "top" bowlers in my area openly admit that they won't bowl if they know the shot is going to be challenging. I don't know I'm just tired of getting beat by people that can't hit within 5 boards of the same mark from frame to frame.
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 09:23:43 PM »
Ooooh, house shots aren't that easy!! I may only have a 184 average (thats my own mental game fault) BUT i did have a Clean Series with a house ball! A 616 to be exact.. i was exploding the pocket that day.. the ball didn't even fit my hand.. i threw it 2 fingered, and had a 616 series (clean) and a 578 series (unclean, lol).. those series were for 3 games.. i was kinda mad for how easy the shot is.. but i guess it's some fun!
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BrunsMike

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 09:24:53 PM »
While everyone else is saying how easy the THS is, I cant say that the house I bowl in is all that easy. When I get asked my average and I tell them 197 on this day and 217 on this day, they always respond with "IN THAT HOUSE!?!? WHOA!!" Now I will be the 1st to say, its not easy but its not all that hard either. As we dont have a true walled shot, yes if you like to bounce the ball off the 3 board its there but usually its in the gutter more then anything because of the angle the ball comes from to get to the 3 board (on either side).

I dont complain about it, if you want a true challenge then get your equipment and bowl 3-6 games before the laneman oils the lanes for leauge and see how good you really are. I do this twice a week and I'll tell you what, this broken down shot IS NOT easy at all. Flying heads with very little backends, hard condition to combat and yet I still shot 639 tonight using a Rampage...
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 09:25:11 PM »
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Ooooh, house shots aren't that easy!! I may only have a 184 average (thats my own mental game fault) BUT i did have a Clean Series with a house ball! A 616 to be exact.. i was exploding the pocket that day.. the ball didn't even fit my hand.. i threw it 2 fingered, and had a 616 series (clean) and a 578 series (unclean, lol).. those series were for 3 games.. i was kinda mad for how easy the shot is.. but i guess it's some fun!
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You're not even old enough to chime in here. You are growing up on soft conditions. I grew up throwing rubber and plastic. I actually do know a thing or two about this darn game!
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Edited on 1/2/2007 10:24 PM
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Scooterdog

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2007, 09:26:14 PM »
Right on Rev_O. I'm going to try and talk the manager into starting a PBA sports league. Just hope I can get enough guys to bowl in it. The problem is getting enough people interested. It's worth a shot.
And yes I know that not all house shot are created equal.

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BTW - I always ignore the knee jerk flames....

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 09:27:21 PM »
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Even though I never missed the pocket I seemed to have half the d**m lane. If I throw the ball better I most likely never even get the eight. Of all the eights I've thrown this is by far the worst I've thrown it.


SO, This is what frustrates me. Are you telling me that all the hard work I have put in to my game to be sure I throw good shots and hit my mark were for nothing and actually have hindered me if mt intention is to bowl well on a THS?
I can't say I have ever felt as though I had half the lane to work with. Maybe in some parts this is the case but I just don't see it around here. Anyone here from Michigan that can tell me where to go to find these incredably easy conditions?
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Rev_O

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2007, 09:28:23 PM »
we got a doubles league going this season. only got 10 teams, but it is a start. I only bowled 2 weeks righty before i hurt myself. I was averaging 186 after 2 weeks. We start back up Jan 15th, and I cant wait. It's the only league I enjoy bowling in now!
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2007, 09:33:01 PM »
Well they're actually changing the conditions now to a heavier oil shot.. the condition was soft that day, but that's rediculous.. i wasn't even trying for the strikes.. i just tried throwing the same shot over and over, and i did, So i kept striking, and i guess you would call that striking but still.. and i grew up on plastic to ya know! I was using a mickey mouse ball until i was 10 !! (poor me) lol.. i just started using the reactive stuff a few years ago! I don't know exactly what a "soft shot" would be, but my normal (until they just changed it) shot is a 10 x 10 shot (i think that's what it's called) with a flood all concentrated in the middle of the lane.. with dry on the outside past 10ish, maybe 8ish. Sorry if im too young and "un-experienced" to be saying this stuff. But a 616 with a house ball. .. just wanted to say my experience.. didn't wanna be a jerk or anything. sorry if i was
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2007, 09:37:54 PM »
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I don't know exactly what a "soft shot" would be, but my normal (until they just changed it) shot is a 10 x 10 shot (i think that's what it's called) with a flood all concentrated in the middle of the lane.. with dry on the outside past 10ish, maybe 8ish.
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That my friend is your classic wall of china! Thats what a "soft shot" is all about. Throw it to 5 board and watch it come screaming back to the 1-3 pocket.
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Rev_O

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2007, 09:38:14 PM »
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Well they're actually changing the conditions now to a heavier oil shot.. the condition was soft that day, but that's rediculous.. i wasn't even trying for the strikes.. i just tried throwing the same shot over and over, and i did, So i kept striking, and i guess you would call that striking but still.. and i grew up on plastic to ya know! I was using a mickey mouse ball until i was 10 !! (poor me) lol.. i just started using the reactive stuff a few years ago! I don't know exactly what a "soft shot" would be, but my normal (until they just changed it) shot is a 10 x 10 shot (i think that's what it's called) with a flood all concentrated in the middle of the lane.. with dry on the outside past 10ish, maybe 8ish. Sorry if im too young and "un-experienced" to be saying this stuff. But a 616 with a house ball. .. just wanted to say my experience.. didn't wanna be a jerk or anything. sorry if i was
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Back in "the day" you had to know how to make the ball hook, or make it go straight. There wasn't any of this adult bumper bowling we see in todays world. It went where you threw it. Now, if you tug it 5 boards it sets up in the hole, or if you miss right by five boards, it comes screamin back to the pocket. The equipment along with the soft THS has made almost everyone a power player. Before, being a power player was an advantage, it's not anymore, just ask a few guys like Del Ballard Jr, PDW in the early reactive years, and many more!! These guys had to learn how to NOT hit it, which was 100% opposite from what they'd done their entire careers. Technology isnt as great as we think it is!!
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2007, 09:41:57 PM »
Long for the days of short oil.  My benchmark ball was a Columbia Black Knight, my "oilers" were a Wine/Black U-Dots, and my dry lane ball was a Nail/Pink Hammer.  First 28 feet, then 26, then 24.  Then came reactives.  The rest is history.
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Rev_O

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2007, 09:43:38 PM »
that's  why walter ray is still there after all of these years!!  He was Player of the year in 1986!!! Take about adapting to change!!
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