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Scooterdog

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Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« on: January 02, 2007, 12:34:30 PM »
Bowled league tonight and decided to use a different push away. It was position night and we only need to win 4  out of 20 points to salt away the first half. I threw the ball very inconsistent with my new push away.
Shoot 279-268-279 = 826    I now change my mind and say you can luck into a 800. Even though I never missed the pocket I seemed to have half the d**m lane. If I throw the ball better I most likely never even get the eight. Of all the eights I've thrown this is by far the worst I've thrown it. I'm really starting to long for the old ABC lane conditions. They should put out a standard 2:1 oil variance. I know it will never happen, just wish I could find a sport league in my area.

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BrunsMike

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2007, 09:45:41 PM »
Rev-O is right on with his point here. I grew up on the Urethane Gyro's and Burgandy Hammers, the snow plows of oil if you wish to call them that. I had to learn how to get the ball to hook 5-10 even 15 boards, then I had to learn how to break the wrist to get the ball back straight for a 10 pin spare. I know just what hes talking about and 100% agree with him.
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2007, 09:48:09 PM »
I hated short oil. I was throwing black beauty and blue dots while most eveyone else was throwing purple angles, black udots, or something like that.

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230-n-up-or-bust

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2007, 09:49:13 PM »
ILM, I agree.  Those shots weren't all that tough.  However, equipment has created such sick entry angles, even the weakest of hands can get a ball to kick out the weak 10-pin now.  I used to kill the hole when short oil was around.  However, the entry angles are two to four degrees stronger at the pocket with reactives and particle equipment.
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2007, 09:52:43 PM »
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I hated short oil. I was throwing black beauty and blue dots while most eveyone else was throwing purple angles, black udots, or something like that.

Thanks for the props BrunsMike!
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Rev_O,

I would have figured you for a polished Wine U-Dot kinda guy.  I loved that ball.  Probably my favorite ball of all time.  I still have one that I got from David Ozio with hardly any games on her.  It was given to me in Milwaukee when Miller still had sponsorship of the PBA Tour.  I think I threw that four or five times and decided to keep her for the archives.









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Rev_O

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2007, 09:56:08 PM »
I did have a wine and black u dot, both highly polished, the wine drilled leverage and the blck drill with the fingers in the label for max finger weight(max length at that time). I was able to use them every so often, but not nearly as much as i'd like to!
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BrunsMike

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2007, 09:57:09 PM »
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I hated short oil. I was throwing black beauty and blue dots while most eveyone else was throwing purple angles, black udots, or something like that.

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I wasnt a bowler pre 1990 but I came into the game where Urethanes were 85% of the market and the big hook meant something still. I used the Ebonite Gyro, Burgandy Hammer, Black Hammer and there were others still that i used. These balls you had to learn how to hook, to me they were very similar to the 1980's style of lanes, was the shot back then easy? for me no as i was only 10-16 years old before reactives started to make an appearance to the bowling industry. I was in my youth years during this time, I sure wish i was bowling in the 1980's instead of now.
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2007, 10:04:23 PM »
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Now, if you tug it 5 boards it sets up in the hole, or if you miss right by five boards, it comes screamin back to the pocket.


 This most likely is an exageration. If I'm playing 11 board and hit 16 there is no way I'm in the hole. I don't think its even possible to miss my mark by that much. BUT if you are talking about the break point that is another animal all together. I've been thru C.A.T.S and my accuracy was within 2.1 inches at the arrows but a whopping 5 to 7 inches at the break point. I've been within 2 inches at the break point for 8 shots but always seem to spray 2 shots. That's why I'm not a pro .   Those 2 shots will kill a good game.

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Rev_O

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2007, 10:08:21 PM »
here's another good example. We have a "big" singles event here every feburary. 3 houses of qualifying with 4 games at each, the cut to the top 12 for some jacked up finals. Anyway, I offered to put out a fair but challenging shot for the tournament. All of the houses have lane machines capable of puuting out a fair pattern. I was told by the tournament commitee that they dont want that. The name of the tournament is "the Beacons BEST". My point is, let's really find out who is the "BEST" by making then actuallt think, not just throw the ball. Well, after a few very salty unpleasantries were exchanged, I decided until They make a fair condition to bowl on, I wont bowl in it!! Why is everyone afraid to find out how much they really suck? Truth hurts to much I guess. I've bowled this tournament i think 15X, making the finals 12x, with a high finish of 2nd. I remember the first year I made the finals, I was 17. I was throwing a yellow dot and a GTB!!! Kinda got off track here, but you understand where I'm going, most bowlers are crybabies, scared to face the truth that is the lack of ability in a bowling center!
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Rev_O

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2007, 10:10:09 PM »
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Now, if you tug it 5 boards it sets up in the hole, or if you miss right by five boards, it comes screamin back to the pocket.


 This most likely is an exageration. If I'm playing 11 board and hit 16 there is no way I'm in the hole. I don't think its even possible to miss my mark by that much. BUT if you are talking about the break point that is another animal all together. I've been thru C.A.T.S and my accuracy was within 2.1 inches at the arrows but a whopping 5 to 7 inches at the break point. I've been within 2 inches at the break point for 8 shots but always seem to spray 2 shots. That's why I'm not a pro .   Those 2 shots will kill a good game.

Scooterdog


Sorry scooter, NO Exageration. I've seen guys playing 10 hit 15 and crush the hole, and the same guy next frame gets it out to the 3 board and gets it back for a strike. Is that showing bowling SKILL???
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2007, 10:13:02 PM »
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Now, if you tug it 5 boards it sets up in the hole, or if you miss right by five boards, it comes screamin back to the pocket.


 This most likely is an exageration. If I'm playing 11 board and hit 16 there is no way I'm in the hole. I don't think its even possible to miss my mark by that much. BUT if you are talking about the break point that is another animal all together. I've been thru C.A.T.S and my accuracy was within 2.1 inches at the arrows but a whopping 5 to 7 inches at the break point. I've been within 2 inches at the break point for 8 shots but always seem to spray 2 shots. That's why I'm not a pro .   Those 2 shots will kill a good game.

Scooterdog


Sorry scooter, NO Exageration. I've seen guys playing 10 hit 15 and crush the hole, and the same guy next frame gets it out to the 3 board and gets it back for a strike. Is that showing bowling SKILL???
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Ummmmm sure to the THS hack! For the 1% of skilled bowlers (this entire site) no!
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Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 197
Thur. Nite Ave: 217
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2007, 10:13:24 PM »
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One of my real enjoyments is to watch these cats stand left and crank it right and miss so far that they stomp their foot and cuss, only to see the ball scream back and hit flush.  Or seeing the cat that tugged it a mile and watch the ball hold and hit high flush.

The big difference is that today on a soft shot, when you miss, you're left with a single pin or something easy to make.  When I'm on a tough shot and throw is like an idiot, I'm looking at buckets, 2-4-7's, and washouts.  When you get to shoot at the back row and 6 pins instead of the ugly stuff, it really adds up.
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Scooterdog

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2007, 10:21:47 PM »
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Sorry scooter, NO Exageration. I've seen guys playing 10 hit 15 and crush the hole, and the same guy next frame gets it out to the 3 board and gets it back for a strike. Is that showing bowling SKILL???
 


  Wow, that's incredible ! There is not much skill in that. That's the whole problem ! Easy conditions blur the separation of the bowlers. I most likely will still out average these type of bowlers. BUT not by as much as I should. Looks like the only place to compete is in the PBA regionals.

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LaneHammer20

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2007, 10:38:03 PM »
Man i am glad that my house is old school and likes to make it as hard as they can for us without it being a sport shot. If you throw it out and get anywhere near the gutter it either goes in or slides down it and comes out weak into the 3-6 pin. I know what you mean, over at a place in the city nearby me, they have a wall shot, and it seems every week someone shoots a 300 or a high 700 series. When i practice bowl ther for fun with some of my friends i am easily averaging 200 to 215, and at my league down in my little town i can barely manage a 175 to 180. The best bwoler in our house who has bowled for about 35 years and i highly respect for his talent, only averages 208 right now. The older man who owns it says he likes to put a tough condition down for us, because thats what makes you a better bowler, and that you should earn your good scores, not let the lanes give them to you. Oh and by the way noone has shot a 300 in mens league there in like 5 years.
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Rev_O

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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2007, 10:42:22 PM »
I'm not saying make it unfair. Let's just make it so that good shots are rewarded more than poor shots. Right now, the opposite seems true!

Think about it, if you miss by 3-5 boards, should you strike??
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Re: Starting to think bowling is a big joke ?!?
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2007, 11:07:37 PM »
Wow...there are 2 300s in a house I bowl in this season!  Across all leagues.
There is also a 760 by a woman!

In the top league is a multitime regional champ.
And a guy #2 or #3 on the all time 300 list!

Things are too easy!

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