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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: guzmand19 on March 09, 2004, 10:08:45 PM

Title: Stone 8 pin
Post by: guzmand19 on March 09, 2004, 10:08:45 PM

This is a quickie, promise!  I threw a really good ball and left the stone 8 pin at the most inoppertune of times.  I was wondering what normally causes the 8 pin?  Is it just a touch to light, or high?  


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"Here we go folks, he is working off the first 8, and looking good.  Looks good on the approach.... OH NO, its off his ankle and down the gutter!!  OHH THE HUMANITY!"

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Title: Re: Stone 8 pin
Post by: Jeffrevs on March 10, 2004, 01:13:17 PM

Darrell,

I don't believe it's necessarily high, but more of a case of TOO much drive because the ball drives the 5 pin straight back instead of into the 8. You just threw it TOO good Darrell!   Wait for gurus though............
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Edited on 3/10/2004 2:08 PM

Title: Re: Stone 8 pin
Post by: heckler17 on March 10, 2004, 01:18:38 PM

yup, you threw that ball too good...too much drive, and drove the 5 straight back...you probably had to take a double take to make sure you were just seeing things...i know i have to when i leave a stone 8...

Title: Re: Stone 8 pin
Post by: guzmand19 on March 10, 2004, 01:35:08 PM

Man I was on fire too.  One big problem I have been running into is dry lanes, and not bieng able to get the ball far enough down the lane.  I had been practicing using a higher backswing but know this can introduce all new problems with timing, etc.  I decided to try it in warmups and did pretty decent.  League started and I went front 6, 8/, next 2 and the stone 8 in the tenth.  Buried 9 in the pit, and the 8 looked like a phantom.  So much chaos and it never so much as wiggled.  Cleaned it up, lucky strike for the fill and 257

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"Here we go folks, he is working off the first 8, and looking good.  Looks good on the approach.... OH NO, its off his ankle and down the gutter!!  OHH THE HUMANITY!"

Darrell Guzman
guzmand19 - Yahoo IM and MSN screen names

Title: Re: Stone 8 pin
Post by: Juggernaut on March 10, 2004, 01:45:25 PM

Technically a stone eight is a little bit off. The ball is supposed to hit only four pins. the 1-3-5-9. If you leave a stone 8, the ball finished at the wrong angle and with too much drive.

 When this happens, the headpin is trapped behind the ball by bouncing back off the 2 pin into the ball's path, hitting the 5 pin and causing it to go directly back instead of going into the 8 pin. You leave the 8 pin because the headpin causes the angle of deflection on the 5 pin to be back instead of at an angle. If it were at an angle, it would hit the 8 pin.

 I have worn out 2 vcr's replaying strange leaves and, without exception, this is the case of every solid eight I have seen on the tv show for the last several years.  There might be some other strange, unknown reason, but not to my limited knowledge.
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Title: Re: Stone 8 pin
Post by: DON DRAPER on March 10, 2004, 04:54:48 PM

today the only true tap in bowling is the solid 8. solid 8's were not that common before urethane balls came out in 1980. a solid 8 is caused by the ball driving the 5 pin straight back. you can't make a better shot---only the result could could have been better.

Title: Re: Stone 8 pin
Post by: RaginCajun on March 10, 2004, 05:10:11 PM

yup i think its time for heavier pins.
i tell ya the carry with these balls
nowadays is terrible. i have never left
as many solid 7's, 8's, 10's and the
ever popular 7-10 and 8-10 splits as i
have the last 2 yrs. Count em folks 9
pocket 7-10's this yr and 7 pocket 8-10's.
unbelievable.
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